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        11-20-2009, 09:57 PM
      #41
    Yearling
    Kitten val- I don't see any difference here. The only difference I see is that women may get tired more easily and quicker, but they still do JUST as good a job (which was what I was getting at) I honestly don't care how fast or slow my horses get done. Quality is better than quanity right? Also, I was trying to point out that it isnt JUST a mans job. Like I said in my first reply, I mentioned nothing about how fast the job gets done, only that women can do it too and just as good.
         
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        11-20-2009, 10:09 PM
      #42
    Green Broke
    My boy is wonderful, he practically holds his foot in the air himself :) Our farrier loves him, his all cuddley with him. That makes me laugh because he really isn't that type of guy.
         
        11-20-2009, 11:37 PM
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    I stole this photo from one of AppT's posts I'm sure she will forgive me.
    I guess I can do that. LOL And it's AppyT. ;) I know Amber apprenticed with a farrier years ago and so knows how to, but she doesn't shoe. She believes almost any hoof issue can be dealt with barefoot better than shod.
         
        11-21-2009, 08:39 AM
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    I guess I can do that. LOL And it's AppyT. ;) I know Amber apprenticed with a farrier years ago and so knows how to, but she doesn't shoe. She believes almost any hoof issue can be dealt with barefoot better than shod.
    Oops sorry, I was a bit heated up about the no girly girls should be farriers comment. I'll slap my fingers for you
         
        11-21-2009, 09:08 AM
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    kitten val- I don't see any difference here. The only difference I see is that women may get tired more easily and quicker, but they still do JUST as good a job (which was what I was getting at) I honestly don't care how fast or slow my horses get done. Quality is better than quanity right? Also, I was trying to point out that it isnt JUST a mans job. Like I said in my first reply, I mentioned nothing about how fast the job gets done, only that women can do it too and just as good.
    They CAN do a great job. I have no doubt about that. And no, it's not just a man job. My comment was mostly to the fact that if say woman had an emergency to do and already did her number of horses for the day (I mean number of horses she has enough energy for), I'm not very positive the woman will be able to do great job tired. Women just not as strong as men physically. It's pretty hard to do the horse with shaking hands and feet. Lol! Unfortunately lots of people don't understand that farrier job is LOTS of hard physical work with back and knees involved and not everyone can handle it physically. Yes, it's paid really well at least around here and one doesn't have to study in college for 4 years to make as much money as someone with degree (or even more in some cases), but it's just not for everyone.

    I don't quite agree with doing the horses too long whether it's a great job or not - it's very uncomfortable for the horse to stay on 3 legs for very long period of time and I can understand if the horse may loose a patience after standing like that for 1 hour. Personally I probably would not go with too slow person (whether it's a guy or girl).

    BTW, I had the same issue with the man farrier: guy was too weak but out of greediness got too many horses to do per day. After several months of such work he was worse and worse in trimming (you can tell he was about to die after each trim).
         
        11-21-2009, 10:48 AM
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    Oops sorry, I was a bit heated up about the no girly girls should be farriers comment. I'll slap my fingers for you
    ROFLMAO.. Just pokin at ya.. No slappin required. And I agree totally.
         
        11-21-2009, 11:01 AM
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    Kitten val,
    I feel you are talking extremes. Anyone who does not pace themselves is going to wear out, regardless of their job. I prefer women farriers/trimmers over men simply because they are not going to try to out muscle my horse. "Some" men will do that. Few women do. Most horses are going to respond better to any person who is not trying to force them into whatever. Taking a bit more time to do the job doesn't mean they hold the leg up longer, it may mean they give the hoof back more often. That is usually a win win situation.
         
        11-21-2009, 01:39 PM
      #48
    Foal
    Thank heavens my little mare is incredibly patient and has excellent hoof manners. She has had me fiddling with a shoe for over an hour on one of her front legs and she didnt move a muscle during the whole time!

    But I definitely agree with you about people not training their horses 'for' vets and farriers. As I'm a vet student, and I have had to deal with some very difficult horses already, it is a huge difference when a horse has good groundwork!
         
        11-22-2009, 09:42 PM
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    kitten val,
    I feel you are talking extremes. Anyone who does not pace themselves is going to wear out, regardless of their job. I prefer women farriers/trimmers over men simply because they are not going to try to out muscle my horse. "Some" men will do that. Few women do. Most horses are going to respond better to any person who is not trying to force them into whatever. Taking a bit more time to do the job doesn't mean they hold the leg up longer, it may mean they give the hoof back more often. That is usually a win win situation.
    I agree, Appyt. Women farriers usually more patient and gentle with horses. And as I said I have nothing at all against women farriers - they do great job and I know number of people around using couple female farriers in my area. However my qh drops her full weight on farrier as long as he picks the hoof. I know it since I did trim her for while myself. Personally I don't feel very comfortable to make a woman to handle that. So yes, it's some kind of extreme I'm talking about. :)
         
        11-22-2009, 11:25 PM
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    However my qh drops her full weight on farrier as long as he picks the hoof. I know it since I did trim her for while myself. Personally I don't feel very comfortable to make a woman to handle that. So yes, it's some kind of extreme I'm talking about. :)
    A good farrier knows how to work that out of a horse and if not, a hoof stand takes care of it very quickly. ;)
         

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