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        09-24-2009, 03:32 PM
      #11
    Showing
    Something to consider:
    Bit Information (Snaffle and English-Type Bits)
         
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        09-24-2009, 05:49 PM
      #12
    Started
    Chevyp:

    I didn't read thru your whole thread before I answered before- haha sorry

    But I do have some advice for you:

    When I got Brodie he bridled fine when I went to see him- then I got him home and he wouldn't let me get near his face with the bridle. I was like what the heck! So I called the vet thinking that he had maybe a teeth issue- nope his teeth were fine ...

    Next I just had to work with him. I had to show him that I was NOT going to hit him in mouth and that it was going to be ok. At the begining he knew that he was taller then me so he would through his head in the air, I had to take my right hand and put it under his face and hold onto his nose so that when he throws it I can bring it back down. Then he decided backing up- so I just stuck with him till he was ready to stop and would hold the bridle on his nose with my right hand and then would GENTLY ask him to open his mouth for the bit and GENTLY put it in his mouth- FEW we got the putting it in him mouth and bridle on down!

    Now to taking if off... the second I would put my hand on his poll to ask him to put his head down he would but when I slid the bridle off he would throw his head and back up not giving me a chance to get the bit out of his mouth without it hitting him ... SO I would hold the top of the bridle with my right hand up by his pole and not slide it off till I was ready and he realized that I was going to hang out up there till he was chill... then I would slid it off- still holding it up so that the tension was still on the bit in his mouth as if it was still all on him- then once he relaxed I would gently let the bit come out and he over time learned that I wasn't gong to hurt him and that he could trust me.

    Moral of the story- be patient and keep at it. You just have to teach them that you aren't going to clink them in the mouth. If you don't feel capable of doing this ask a trainer or someone who does. I WILL NOT let anyone else (except ppl I approve) bridle Brodie. I have worked hard to get him to where he is... good luck!

    Oh have you had your horses teeth checked?
         
        09-24-2009, 05:57 PM
      #13
    Weanling
    I would try a Myler, though I've never used one I've many people say that they're the best bits. They also have a new line that have flavoured rubber where it goes in the mouth, you could try that if he likes mint flavouring (or just rub a small amount of tooth paste on the bit before you use it). I've seen that some horse just like some bits better thatn others, so, unfortunately I think it's kind of a guess and check. For example, my horse LOVES taking Kimberwick's but tries to refuse to take a simple snaffle, and I have now idea why... I hope you can find a bit that works!
         
        09-25-2009, 10:13 AM
      #14
    Yearling
    If you need help with him about the actual bridling still once you get a nice snaffle I would google John Lyons' bridling tips. He does a good job of showing you what to do and it's a short video that you can watch for free somewhere. It will give you a good visual of what you can do with the training you've already put on him to get him to lower his head. Good luck and keep us posted!
         
        09-25-2009, 03:01 PM
      #15
    Yearling
    Are you riding him? If he has had unpleasant experiences under saddle, he will associate the bridling with them. Make sure he has no cuts or sores in his mouth and the bit is not irritating. I would work on getting him used to you touching his mouth and face before you try the bridle. Start slowly, observe how much he lets you do. For bridling, they must be comfortable with having fingers touching their mouth and face.
         
        09-26-2009, 12:28 AM
      #16
    Trained
    [quote=kchfuller;410881]chevyp:

    I didn't read thru your whole thread before I answered before- haha sorry

    But I do have some advice for you:

    When I got Brodie he bridled fine when I went to see him- then I got him home and he wouldn't let me get near his face with the bridle. I was like what the heck! So I called the vet thinking that he had maybe a teeth issue- nope his teeth were fine ...

    Next I just had to work with him. I had to show him that I was NOT going to hit him in mouth and that it was going to be ok. At the begining he knew that he was taller then me so he would through his head in the air, I had to take my right hand and put it under his face and hold onto his nose so that when he throws it I can bring it back down. Then he decided backing up- so I just stuck with him till he was ready to stop and would hold the bridle on his nose with my right hand and then would GENTLY ask him to open his mouth for the bit and GENTLY put it in his mouth- FEW we got the putting it in him mouth and bridle on down!

    Now to taking if off... the second I would put my hand on his poll to ask him to put his head down he would but when I slid the bridle off he would throw his head and back up not giving me a chance to get the bit out of his mouth without it hitting him ... SO I would hold the top of the bridle with my right hand up by his pole and not slide it off till I was ready and he realized that I was going to hang out up there till he was chill... then I would slid it off- still holding it up so that the tension was still on the bit in his mouth as if it was still all on him- then once he relaxed I would gently let the bit come out and he over time learned that I wasn't gong to hurt him and that he could trust me.

    Moral of the story- be patient and keep at it. You just have to teach them that you aren't going to clink them in the mouth. If you don't feel capable of doing this ask a trainer or someone who does. I WILL NOT let anyone else (except ppl I approve) bridle Brodie. I have worked hard to get him to where he is... good luck!

    Oh have you had your horses teeth checked?[/quote/]


    I totally agree with this.
         

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