Well it started out to be a promising day, Beth's little filly was working really well for me on the lounge line both directions! So I took her into the round pen, and she did a 360 degree turn when I tried to free lounge her. Bulked, turned her butt to me and did her kicking thing when I asked her to move out. I went from kiss, to twirling the rope, poping it on the ground, poping it on her hindquarters firmly and increased the momentum, but still nothing, so I switched to the whip and poped the whip on the round pen rail right behind her and she kicked out at me so I poped her legs and she decided she was going to do her famous, reverse kick, reverse kick till I stepped back well this time I had a little suprise for, I stood my ground, kept the pressure on her and when she invated my space and came within leg distance of kicking me and raised that leg to get me good, I had a suprise for her... Whiped out the cattle prod, first I warned her as she reversed in my space even more I zaped it and it made that well known sound, then when she didn't leave me I met her kicking half way with a good solid shock on her left hind leg and she BOLTED! I bet she ran about 10 laps around that pen and I just released all pressure and let her realize what happened. That was the only time I had to actually use it on her bec for the next hour, she kept facing me instead of turning her rear to me! Sucess! She learned that kicking and invading my space gave her a heck of a suprise! I didn't ever want it to come to me actually taken the stable owners advice but for the hour I worked her, she didn't once dear turn her butt to me let alone be stuborn and kick. I'm sure it will take weeks of constent work to have her moving out off light pressure but that cattle prod worked and I doubt I will ever have to actually use it again. Beth was happy to see her finally moving around the round pen like she very well knew she better. Like I said before, if a horse is willing to invade my space and injure me... She needs a good shock to get her back in line.