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    11-03-2011, 10:05 PM
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pep
Foal
Draw reins?

So my instructor is having me use draw reins to get a feel of how it is when the horse is on the bit or framing and I was just curious if there's anything I should remember when I am using them and when I stop using them?

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    11-03-2011, 10:52 PM
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Your instructor is misinformed. They will not make a horse travel in frame. They may help when used briefly along with a LOT of leg to PUSH a horse into frame.

I am afraid a lot of people drag a horse's head back into a vertical face 'head-set' and they think they are teaching the horse to travel 'in frame' and 'collected'. You cannot drag a horse into frame from its head back. You MUST push a horse's hind end forward and use skillful hands to elevate the shoulders and keep a horse's head in an acceptable position. Then and only then do you have a horse framed up and collected. The hand forms a barrier, they do not pull the face back.

Draw reins, used briefly, may help get a heavy and very resistant horse learn to respect your reins and hands a little better, but they really are a crutch that usually ends up just dragging a horse's nose back and allowing (or encouraging) it to travel heavy on its front end. They end up accomplishing exactly the opposite of what people are trying to get done.
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    11-03-2011, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by pep    
So my instructor is having me use draw reins to get a feel of how it is when the horse is on the bit or framing and I was just curious if there's anything I should remember when I am using them and when I stop using them?

Thanks
The ''feeling'' you are getting is wrong.
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    11-03-2011, 11:10 PM
  #4
Trained
Draw reins are a training tool and not a very good one either. Lazy man's training tool I call it.
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    11-03-2011, 11:13 PM
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If the horse knew how to get into frame properly he/she would do it without draw reins. And therefore you would be able to get the "feel" through gentle/subtle pressue on the reins/bit.

Horses have to be taught to give off of pressue. Not forced.
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    11-03-2011, 11:23 PM
  #6
Trained
Things to remember when using draw reins, they are a tool, and should be used sparingly.

When should you stop using them, when you don't need them!

I have been a lifetime detractor of draw reins, then my trainer convinced me to ride Mr G in them for a session, that was to help me feel how G Man feels when he is giving to the bit. If I am riding nearly every day, I would only use them once a week at most, just to remind me what I was aiming at, when I ride less I use them a lot less.
     
    11-04-2011, 12:19 AM
  #7
pep
Foal
I worded my question wrong I guess, I am using them to get the horse working from it's hind end but

Cherie- I am using my hands to elevate the shoulders and my leg to push the horse forward, I'm not the best with wording what it is called but I meant like getting the horse to work with ItS hind end or on the bit we are not at all dragging the horses head into a vertical head set, but working on having thenhorse respect my hand and helping me learn how to properly collect the horse (my trainer has no issues having my horse collect and work with it's back end when she's on him) so it's more to help me learn the proper aids, again sorry I worded it wrong
     
    11-04-2011, 12:23 AM
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pep
Foal
And my trainer won't use draw reins on him ** forgot to add that so like I said it's more for me to learn
     
    11-04-2011, 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by pep    
I worded my question wrong I guess, I am using them to get the horse working from it's hind end but

Cherie- I am using my hands to elevate the shoulders and my leg to push the horse forward, I'm not the best with wording what it is called but I meant like getting the horse to work with ItS hind end or on the bit we are not at all dragging the horses head into a vertical head set, but working on having thenhorse respect my hand and helping me learn how to properly collect the horse (my trainer has no issues having my horse collect and work with it's back end when she's on him) so it's more to help me learn the proper aids, again sorry I worded it wrong

Your hands do not elevate the shoulders or get the haunches to work correctly or collect. So you are not using proper aids at all, nor using draw reins help you ''learn'' anything that will help in the future.
     
    11-04-2011, 12:45 AM
  #10
pep
Foal
So then the point of draw reins is...
     

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