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        01-26-2009, 12:00 AM
      #11
    Weanling
    I think a horse is going to have an easier time feeling your aides in an English saddle and then you should have a stronger foundation to work from when you get into your western saddle. As for contact, I rode both of my horses in the same bridle with the same contact in both English and western until they knew what I was asking for and after that, the saddle had no effect on how they responded. A horse in an English saddle can go on a loose reign just as well as a horse in a western saddle can. Getting to a loose reign should only be a concern when the horse knows the rest of his job.
         
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        01-26-2009, 08:32 PM
      #12
    Started
    Here's my thoughts on my topic hehe.

    I started Lizzy western.

    Why? You may ask...

    Simply because it is easier to: one; break the horse in a western saddle, two; it is easier (for me) to ride in a western saddle, and three; teach the horse in an o-ring and go from little to no contact to lightweight contact on the mouth.

    Lizzy, just before fair (August of '08), started getting worked English. I only rode her one time English before fair, other than that, every single time I rode (I got her in June) I rode western with the o-ring snaffle. I haven't worked her English since fair, until today. And she was phenomenal. She understood all of my cues and she LOPED when I asked and CANTERED when I asked.

    I feel it is easier to get the horse collected in a western saddle, thus preparing her and me for English.

    Catch my flow?
         
        01-26-2009, 08:51 PM
      #13
    Green Broke
    I think it is easier for me to start english, because that is what I undderstand!
         
        01-26-2009, 08:57 PM
      #14
    Super Moderator
    LOL... Stormy you crack me up!
         
        01-26-2009, 09:00 PM
      #15
    Started
    Heh, well, do whatcha gotta do!
         
        01-26-2009, 09:05 PM
      #16
    Green Broke
    haha, glad to make people laugh! Trust me, you would be craking up if you saw me in person! Lol
         
        01-26-2009, 09:21 PM
      #17
    Showing
    It depends on the horse, but I think Western's much easier for them to learn first...then, do English. :) That's what I taught my old horse Lexi- however, she performs better Western.
         
        01-28-2009, 02:15 AM
      #18
    Weanling
    English is definitely the easier to start a horse out in, then move to western. Keep in mind, that it does not matter if you have a western saddle or an english saddle on the horse. We start all our horses out in a western saddle, regardless of if they are saddleseat, hunter, or western- there is just more security in the western saddle.

    By starting the horse english you will not be tempted to started pulling to get the horse to slow down. You work the horse back to front (as with all disciplines), with a young horse it is easier to allow them to move out a bit, esp for balance. Once the horse understands to work from behind, come onto the bit, and all your cues, you can begin asking them to collect and slow down a bit. Really, you can incorporate some jogging and a few strides of loping when working your english horse. This will introduce the concept of jogging and loping, but will not put such a demand on them physically or mentally. It will also increase their responsiveness to your seat and other cues, thus making it much easier to develop them into a western horse as they mature physically and mentally.
         
        01-28-2009, 12:00 PM
      #19
    Weanling
    If your talking about breaking them I would say use an Western Saddle for sure, but as far as training goes I think it depends on the horse. If you have a naturally short strided horse, I would start out english because it harder for them to extendand should be easy to bring back down because that's how they are naturally. The other way around it your horse has nice extension and is a natural english mover, it will be hard to get them all colloected and slow and it will be easy to bring them back to what they do naturally. Did that make sense? I'm so bad at explaining techniques and such! If I had to choose one or the other I would say english. I think its easier to bring them back down then to push.
         
        01-28-2009, 11:38 PM
      #20
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by cowgirlfitzy    
    If your talking about breaking them I would say use an Western Saddle for sure, but as far as training goes I think it depends on the horse. If you have a naturally short strided horse, I would start out english because it harder for them to extendand should be easy to bring back down because that's how they are naturally. The other way around it your horse has nice extension and is a natural english mover, it will be hard to get them all colloected and slow and it will be easy to bring them back to what they do naturally. Did that make sense? I'm so bad at explaining techniques and such! If I had to choose one or the other I would say english. I think its easier to bring them back down then to push.
    Do you mean if the horse has a naturally short stride it would be better to work on western, and if they have a naturally long stride it would be better to start out english?
         

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