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        10-11-2012, 01:49 PM
      #21
    KSL
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    20. How am I starting trouble by asking what a egg butt snaffle is commonly used for since I've never used one? Maybe I want to start using one? Not sure how I'm starting trouble.
         
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        10-11-2012, 01:51 PM
      #22
    Yearling
    Come on guys... let's not instigate...

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    Originally Posted by Golden Horse    
    Makes me wonder how much this person knows, I mean seriously, an eggbutt is one of those bits that 99% of people have hanging around, (I'm kind of including D Ring in there as well)

    Nope, got no more, just walking away shaking my head
    Well I wouldn't say not knowing the mechanics of an eggbutt bit means she doesn't know anything. I can identify an eggbutt, but I wouldn't have really been able to tell someone accurately how it's better or worse than any other snaffle. It isn't because I'm ignorant or inexperienced... it's just because I've never owned one, and never really researched it, nor have I ever come to a point with a horse where I thought "Oh man! I need an eggbutt snaffle!" Lol. I don't show, never have (not anything serious anyway). So my method of choosing a bit is going to the tack store, looking at the bit wall, handling a few, bending them this way and that, putting them in my fist and twisting them around to see if they pinch... you get the idea. I use D-ring most often, and just from comparing the two visually it looks like they have similar attributes, so it's possible they are mechanically the same ...? Anyway... my point is even experienced and knowledgeable people don't know a lot about things that others consider "common knowledge".

    KSL, I believe you can ride. I believe you know lots about horses. I don't think you're stupid and I haven't read anything that implies that you are. You are opinionated and maybe a tad stubborn, but certainly not stupid. I used to be exactly the same way... I could accomplish a lot but I ended up making myself look silly when I took things personally and tried to argue myself into being right. If you come here with the mindset "I want to learn" you will do just that. Then, you can put your two-cents in on threads where people ask for advice and start threads asking questions - but you have to have the intention to learn. If you come here with the mindset "I want to educate" and then post threads asking questions and sparking bit vs bitless debates with no intention of learning, only pushing your opinion and keeping a closed mind, you will not like your experience here.

    You wouldn't BELIEVE how much I've learned from this forum. Just keep an open mind and you will learn a LOT of valuable information that will directly benefit you as a young horsewoman. I'm about your age and have been visiting this forum for over a year and learn more and more every time I come here.
         
        10-11-2012, 01:54 PM
      #23
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by KSL    
    20. How am I starting trouble by asking what a egg butt snaffle is commonly used for since I've never used one? Maybe I want to start using one? Not sure how I'm starting trouble.
    Just curious as to why you come on here and start threads about not using bits, about your boarder, etc. and then proceed to become defensive when the answers people give don't go your way.
         
        10-11-2012, 02:00 PM
      #24
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by Golden Horse    
    What bits do you use then.
    Still waiting for an answer, I now understand that you ride using a lacy cobweb, gathered at dawn using a fairy wand, but who taught you to ride, what equipment did they use, and do you use any bits now?
         
        10-11-2012, 02:03 PM
      #25
    KSL
    Banned
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    Originally Posted by Golden Horse    
    Still waiting for an answer, I now understand that you ride using a lacy cobweb, gathered at dawn using a fairy wand, but who taught you to ride, what equipment did they use, and do you use any bits now?
    Sorry, I thought I answered this. I usually don't use a bit unless I'm in a larger competition. Then, I use a Tom Thumb but keep my hands extremely light, since I know it's harsh. But I rarely use one. I don't like using it.

    My dad taught me to ride. He's a trainer and cutting competitor. He used a variety of equipment when needed, but didn't put the horse in a bit unless he needed it. Which is what I still stand on.
         
        10-11-2012, 02:20 PM
      #26
    Trained
    Tom Thumb, WOW
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        10-11-2012, 02:22 PM
      #27
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by KSL    
    Sorry, I thought I answered this. I usually don't use a bit unless I'm in a larger competition. Then, I use a Tom Thumb but keep my hands extremely light, since I know it's harsh. But I rarely use one. I don't like using it.

    My dad taught me to ride. He's a trainer and cutting competitor. He used a variety of equipment when needed, but didn't put the horse in a bit unless he needed it. Which is what I still stand on.
    Instead of a Tom Thumb you might want to look into a non-jointed bit or a Myler - those single jointed curbs are just icky.

    Something like these...





    There's a sticky on one of these subforums that smrobs wrote that has LOTS of great info about bits... Bit Information (Curb and Western type bits and hackamores) for western and there's also one about snaffles/English types. In that thread the bit used to exemplify an angled shank is the kind of curb I used on a gelding I had that neck-reined very very well and had a very light mouth. It's really the only type of curb I've used in the recent years but that doesn't mean there aren't others that are more mild.
         
        10-11-2012, 02:22 PM
      #28
    KSL
    Banned
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Golden Horse    
    Tom Thumb, WOW
    It's used for a lot of western practices. But, I never even touch it. I use maybe 1/2 pound of pressure at the most. 99% of the time, it lays flat.
         
        10-11-2012, 02:25 PM
      #29
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    Originally Posted by KSL    
    It's used for a lot of western practices. But, I never even touch it. I use maybe 1/2 pound of pressure at the most. 99% of the time, it lays flat.
    I rode Western for 7 years... We only used snaffles.. Even at shows where we placed in the top 3.
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        10-11-2012, 02:43 PM
      #30
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    Originally Posted by KSL    
    It's used for a lot of western practices. But, I never even touch it. I use maybe 1/2 pound of pressure at the most. 99% of the time, it lays flat.
    Well... what if you have to use it? It's going to give that horse of yours, who's mostly used to bitless, a pretty nasty shock!

    I would recommend switching to something more mild, particularly since your horses are used to riding bitless.

    I'm curious (and I'm likely displaying my ignorance here, since I don't show a whole lot), but isn't a bosal legal for a lot of shows? I know our local show allows a bosal in Western Pleasure. Not sure what Western disciplines you show in but since your horses do well bitless, a bosal might be a better option than a bit, particularly a tom thumb.

    Personally I never see any tom thumbs in use with any of the western riders around here. Most use mild curbs. Almost every cheaply made "complete bridle" comes with a tom thumb, but if I do buy a cheapie I take the bit off and replace it. I have one use for tom thumbs: a friend of mine made a very nice "windchime" hanging off her stable roof with a bunch of tom thumbs.
         

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