Embarrassing question: clicker training a gelding - The Horse Forum
 3Likes
  • 1 Post By Golden Horse
  • 1 Post By shawnakarrasch
  • 1 Post By jmc
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 7 Old 03-22-2013, 07:19 PM Thread Starter
jmc
Foal
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Wyoming
Posts: 175
• Horses: 3
Embarrassing question: clicker training a gelding

So... I need to erase a behavior, and replace it with the opposite. It has to do with sheath/penis cleaning. I've accidentally taught my young gelding to "suck it up", because whenever I see him down, he's almost always super yukky, so I'm like "oh must clean that now" - and up it goes, never to be seen again. This has trained him so well he rarely drops in my presence (I only realized today that I unintentionally have been training this!)

He is a smegma factory and truly needs to be cleaned - he's noticeably uncomfortable at the moment. He needs to be cleaned, at a minimum, every two months, and I've seen him go from squeeky clean to uncomfortably dirty in less than a month :(

So, I'd like to clicker train him to drop, and stay dropped, on command. I'm new to clicker training, and while I've had some success, I'm just not sure how to go about training this, since he doesn't drop while clicker training, like I was just reading some geldings do (I wish!).

Anybody ever done this? How?

jmc
Proud partner of
Yankee Allstar, Rocky Mountain Horse
jmc is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 7 Old 03-22-2013, 07:24 PM
Showing
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Saskatchewan
Posts: 12,052
• Horses: 2
Subbing out of interest!
SnowCowgirl likes this.
Golden Horse is online now  
post #3 of 7 Old 03-22-2013, 08:52 PM
Started
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 2,248
• Horses: 0
okay, first thing first. If he is uncomfortable and needs to be cleaned I would call your vet and get some tranquilizer to get your boy relaxed. Clicker training may take a little while to get this behavior down. I would start by loading the clicker and then playing a waiting game. When you spot it down, click and treat it. I would start getting him to associate a key word with the clicker and behavior.

That said, I would seriously consider all elements of the behavior before training it. I heard a story of a dolphin who was trained to get a you know what when waved at. That was a odd trick to teach but was okay in an adult environment. The dolphin left the research facility and ended up a water park where small children waved at it all day. That led to some weird conversations.
rookie is offline  
post #4 of 7 Old 03-22-2013, 09:22 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 3,712
• Horses: 0
You'll have no problem getting him to drop with clicker training, clicker training has been known to make a gelding drop just during the process of clicker training in the early stages with treats and clicks for making them just hang it all out.

Do a google search in clicker training and dropping.....you might find a few articles about it. The problem is that the horse hangs it out when you don't want it hanging out. Actually if you YouTube clicker trained geldings or something to that effect you may see it......in fact look at this:
This horse was clicker trained.....no problem getting to his parts:
(Personally I'd be making him out it away!)


Last edited by Muppetgirl; 03-22-2013 at 09:26 PM.
Muppetgirl is offline  
post #5 of 7 Old 03-23-2013, 01:10 PM
Foal
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 31
• Horses: 0
Hi jmc,
I recommend teaching him to allow you to clean his sheath without dropping. Use positive reinforcement/ clicker training to get him calm and relaxed and then you can clean him without him needing to drop. This will help circumvent too much unwanted dropping. My horse is like yours...he needs to be cleaned all of the time! I just head on up in there and can give him a thorough cleaning. I have a DVD on my website that shows you how to do this or here is a link to a YouTube video/blog post that talks you through the process to give you an idea, if you want to take a look. The one topic horse people don’t talk about…sheath cleaning! : On Target Training with Shawna Karrasch
PunksTank likes this.
shawnakarrasch is offline  
post #6 of 7 Old 03-23-2013, 01:33 PM Thread Starter
jmc
Foal
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Wyoming
Posts: 175
• Horses: 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by shawnakarrasch View Post
Hi jmc,
I recommend teaching him to allow you to clean his sheath without dropping. Use positive reinforcement/ clicker training to get him calm and relaxed and then you can clean him without him needing to drop. This will help circumvent too much unwanted dropping. My horse is like yours...he needs to be cleaned all of the time! I just head on up in there and can give him a thorough cleaning. I have a DVD on my website that shows you how to do this or here is a link to a YouTube video/blog post that talks you through the process to give you an idea, if you want to take a look. The one topic horse people don’t talk about…sheath cleaning! : On Target Training with Shawna Karrasch
Thanks. The link only takes me to the sales pitch about the DVD, but I'll do a Youtube search and see what I find.
shawnakarrasch likes this.

jmc
Proud partner of
Yankee Allstar, Rocky Mountain Horse
jmc is offline  
post #7 of 7 Old 03-23-2013, 01:51 PM
Foal
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 31
• Horses: 0
shawnakarrasch is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.



User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Embarrassing riding question NHhorserider Horse Riding 25 03-13-2013 08:41 PM
Re-training aids; help on impulsion versus tempo? (Also clicker training) TerciopeladoCaballo Dressage 1 03-06-2013 08:23 PM
Set of Horse training Books- clicker training! jklfarm Tack and Equipment Classifieds 1 12-22-2012 05:13 PM
Clicker Training Success? (Also training opn.) ButterfliEterna Horse Training 0 05-02-2010 01:29 AM
Embarrassing question dee Horse Tack and Equipment 33 09-02-2009 12:10 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome