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post #1 of 4 Old 11-28-2012, 12:30 AM Thread Starter
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Engaged his hindquarters?

I don't have a video or pic, sadly. So I can only describe how it felt and the change.

So, my gelding has a really weak back from never using his hindquarters. Whenever I would ride (really showed up bareback) afterwards, when I got off or untacked, his back would be insanely dipped.

So, I got on him bareback the other day and walked and trotted him. He was in a halter and I tried tipping his nose in towards his chest a little bit while keeping his head level, kept my leg on him to keep a good pace, and felt a huge difference! His trot was alot smoother, his back didnt feel bony, and his withers didnt stab me. Part of me wants to say it felt like riding up hill, but im not sure. When I got off, his back was lifted like I had just done a bunch of back lifts!! (I did a little dance)

Could it be by simply tipping his nose in while keeping his head level and keeping him at a decent pace it got him to engage his hindquarters?

Might, might, be able to get a video tomorrow. Ill try.

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post #2 of 4 Old 11-28-2012, 12:36 AM
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I don't have a video or pic, sadly. So I can only describe how it felt and the change.

So, my gelding has a really weak back from never using his hindquarters. Whenever I would ride (really showed up bareback) afterwards, when I got off or untacked, his back would be insanely dipped.

So, I got on him bareback the other day and walked and trotted him. He was in a halter and I tried tipping his nose in towards his chest a little bit while keeping his head level, kept my leg on him to keep a good pace, and felt a huge difference! His trot was alot smoother, his back didnt feel bony, and his withers didnt stab me. Part of me wants to say it felt like riding up hill, but im not sure. When I got off, his back was lifted like I had just done a bunch of back lifts!! (I did a little dance)

Could it be by simply tipping his nose in while keeping his head level and keeping him at a decent pace it got him to engage his hindquarters?

Might, might, be able to get a video tomorrow. Ill try.

Thanks!
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No, nothing you do to his face will engage his hind end. In fact, the opposite is true - the more you "tip his head in" the further out you push his back end.
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post #3 of 4 Old 11-28-2012, 12:59 AM
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I wonder about his saddle fit. Even if he is hollowing under saddle, he shouldn't still be sucked away when you untack him. When was the last time your saddle was professionally assessed?

As far as training, like Chiilaa said above, 'tipping his nose' won't do a thing to his hindquarters. Riding the hindquarters forward, is what engages the hind quarters ;)
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Think of it this way - if you pull back on the reins, you push the hind legs backwards. If you push the hind legs, the horse will push it's neck and head towards the bridle, and start to come 'on the bit'.

To engage the hind legs, you must activate them. And you cannot activate them if you're pulling on the reins.
I suggest you make a neck strap with an old stirrup leather, and when you ride, tuck your fingers under it. This will keep your hands at the appropriate position, and will prevent you from pulling on his mouth.
From here, it's a matter of riding forward, but controlling the speed with your seat. A strong core is essential for a rider to be able to develop engagement in the horse.
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Sounds like what you did was get a subtle bend through his entire body which is all it takes to get a horse to come all the way through. I'm thinking when you "tipped his nose in" you inadvertently added inside leg which did the trick. It's a fantastic feeling, isn't it?
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