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  • Training a horse uphill with bandages behind the hind quarters
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    07-11-2011, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Doe    
Also walking is more effective than trotting. Trotting such a horse will throw them onto the forehand.
Doe, I have to respectfully disagree. You need an impulsion to round (and get off forehand), however getting impulsion on walk often harder than on trot (at least from my experience).
     
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    07-11-2011, 11:34 AM
  #12
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Originally Posted by Doe    
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Though those are useful exercises, this horse lacks the musculature we are told. I would therefore be concerned by the risk of injury to the hocks, even splints and certainly stiffness.

To use an athletic analogy - Make sure you can sprint before you try the hurdles.
I agree with this statement, as long as it is understood that it's important for the horse to be asked to move properly from the rear. Having a horse move at a brisk trot, walk, or canter while heavy on the forehand allows the horse to move improperly and never engage his rear.

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Originally Posted by kitten_Val    
Doe, I have to respectfully disagree. You need an impulsion to round (and get off forehand), however getting impulsion on walk often harder than on trot (at least from my experience).
I think walking up and down hills yes, but as Kitten said... impulsion impulsion impulsion....
     
    07-11-2011, 12:54 PM
  #13
Doe
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however getting impulsion on walk often harder than on trot (at least from my experience).
Kitten, absolutely correct. That is why it is so effective, as I said many horses would rather trot up hill than walk up it. By 'holding them back' (effectively not literally) we are teaching them to move their balance point rearwards as they go uphill and drive from the hind. Don't overdo it.

Another great tool is to tie a couple of long bandages together (good medical grade elastic) so they form a big loop. Twist it so it's a figure 8 and have it run across the chest and up the line of the shoulder, cross over the back and then just under the tail, so it sits just under the deepest part of the cheek.

It doesn't need to be tight (it should literally only be touching the skin no tension) but even at a walk, if suggesting the correct motion you will see sweat within a minute or two. It's just reminding the nervous system that's all. (I've got a video somewhere of just his exercise I'll dig out)

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I agree with this statement, as long as it is understood that it's important for the horse to be asked to move properly from the rear. Having a horse move at a brisk trot, walk, or canter while heavy on the forehand allows the horse to move improperly and never engage his rear.
Agree entirely.
     
    07-11-2011, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Doe    
That is why it is so effective, as I said many horses would rather trot up hill than walk up it.
Mine actually prefer to canter uphill. Lol! Which I don't allow usually until I have muscles and other stuff in place first.
     

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