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post #11 of 19 Old 06-28-2010, 10:45 AM Thread Starter
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Ok. Does it look like im on the right track with her (thats not me on her)? But as far as movement and headset and collection... is the horses body in the correct position?

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post #12 of 19 Old 06-28-2010, 11:02 AM
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As already posted you will need to know just what circuit you are showing.

In true English HUS classes the head neck will never be below the withers. If you understand just where hunting horses came from and what they were used for throughout history no self respecting horse would travel like that over rough terrain or be able to jump fences in that position.

The western world has answered a call from their members that wanted to mimic what is done in the English world but they are set on having a low head carriage that is taken from the western pleasure. So by placing an English saddle on basically a western pleasure horse and moving it out a bit more and being judged by the SAME judges that judge western pleasure it is only natural you get little or no difference.

So you will have to decide where your horse fits. A video might help to see if you are on the right track.
Spyder hit the nail on the head.

The appy circuit they move just like they do on the QH circuit. All HUS classes do is put an English saddle on a WP horse and call it English.

Open shows it is kind of hit and miss what you get for judges. Most of the time they are stock breed judges so they will be looking for that WEnglish look.

If you are planning on taking her to the hunter/jumper world you need her to actually carry herself and not move on her front end.

What type of showing does the trainer you are using normally do?


PS, she is very pretty.
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post #13 of 19 Old 06-28-2010, 11:15 AM Thread Starter
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She doesnt show anymore. Im really not sure what she used to show. I just know she is the only recommended trainer in my area. I mean my mom showed english when she was younger. And she helps me the... but stuff has changed since she rode in the show world. So im goin what the two have told me... and their ideas seem to match. So that is what Im aiming for.

I have been working on getting her off her forehand... (she was leased out during this show). I know have her starting to work from her butt again. As I am also wanting to get her into reining... and she has all the moves down... they are just slow...

PS... thanks alwaysbehind. Shes not bad for a free horse... and has come along way for the under weight yearling I started with.

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post #14 of 19 Old 06-28-2010, 11:57 AM
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she is really nice looking, i like her a lot
where are you located in florida? maybe i ll have to come out and see her in her next show
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post #15 of 19 Old 06-28-2010, 12:00 PM Thread Starter
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Im close to Ocala... probably the closest big city. And she shows in Williston in english. And she works cattle on saturdays in Lecanto.

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She looks good like she is moving on the right track. Up Here in the great Wisconsin on the open circuit I see a lot of stock type favoritism in the hunt arena. That is until this year where my pinto half arab and I have been beating some stock type butt (no offense). They mostly are looking for a horse that MOVES out. Nice ground covering stride with head set level with withers, maybe a little arch in the neck. This is what I find gets placed the highest. Not saying that you would do this but to me the biggest insult to someone to rides huntseat (or at least just to me) is a horse that places and isnt moving out at all. As one great trainer told me "you are hunters with hounds running next to you look up! and push those horses out.

So to sum it up would be to push that little horse out into a nice big stride at the trot, canter at the decent speed and you should be good to go.
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post #17 of 19 Old 07-01-2010, 11:33 PM
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if english pleasure, below. atleast in paint. in appy they are really pushing the head a bit higher.

also, if you go to worlds, invest in a fake tail:)

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Well... she has a nice pretty long tail. It just got chewed. It has grown atleast six inches since these pics were taken. So I dont think I will need one. And she does carry her head slightly higher than her wither.... and she will arch her neck if asked.

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Well... she has a nice pretty long tail. It just got chewed. It has grown atleast six inches since these pics were taken. So I dont think I will need one. And she does carry her head slightly higher than her wither.... and she will arch her neck if asked.
even so, if your going to worlds, i would get a fake one. but you dont have to.

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