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    01-22-2011, 09:11 PM
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Foal
Evading bit and extremely mouthy

Wow it's been awhile! Well Tara and I don't venture out much but when I do hop on for a walk around the farm she's a nightmare. She also seems to really hate the bit. She chews and chomps like crazy and tucks her head in to evade it if the slightest contact is made. I use an egg butt snaffle and I've had her mouth checked and teeth done..no issues found there. I also have no idea what her history is before she got to the rescue.

What should my next step be in changing this? I've considered trying a hackamore, though since I'd like to eventually do low level events, she will have to accept a bit for dressage.
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    01-23-2011, 01:18 AM
  #2
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YOur avatar shows what looks like a horse in a bitless bridle, is that the mare in question?

The usual solution to when a horse comes behind the bit to avoid contact is to lighten the contact and drive the horse briskly forward. Usually this will make the horse lift their head and give you another chance to take up contact if you need it. Also, try to always keep contact uneven. Never have the same amount of pressure in both reins at the same time.
     
    01-23-2011, 03:17 AM
  #3
Weanling
One of mine was like that with the bit and I did everything I could think of to get her to accept the contact. I eventually discovered she has a very small mouth with a sensitive palate and she hates a broken snaffle. When I changed her to a double-jointed bit she stopped mouthing and going behind the bit. Just a thought, not sure if this is your horse's issue or not. Mine also does not like heavy bits, and some of the egg-butts are pretty heavy.
     
    01-23-2011, 11:35 AM
  #4
Foal
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Originally Posted by gottatrot    
One of mine was like that with the bit and I did everything I could think of to get her to accept the contact. I eventually discovered she has a very small mouth with a sensitive palate and she hates a broken snaffle. When I changed her to a double-jointed bit she stopped mouthing and going behind the bit. Just a thought, not sure if this is your horse's issue or not. Mine also does not like heavy bits, and some of the egg-butts are pretty heavy.
Woops! I forgot to mention that I've also tried a French link many times and got the same reaction. Thanks for your input! I will try a lighter bit and see how she does. Could a light straight bar snaffle possibly help?
     
    01-23-2011, 05:17 PM
  #5
Foal
You said you don't get out much with her. Does that mean you don't work with her much at all? If you don't spend time with her ,she may not be respecting you. She may just be challenging your authority and seeing if she can get away with it. If this is the case, try some groundwork like lounging to build respect and a relationship.
     
    01-23-2011, 05:26 PM
  #6
Yearling
Have you ever tried her in a hackamore before? If you do, it will tell you if it really is her not liking the bit, or if she's just being dominating. If she responds well in a hackamore, then try to get a lighter bit, and teach her from the ground to respond (maybe ground driving or lunging?) if she doesn't respond well in a hackamore, then you can pretty much bet she is just being pushy. In that case she needs to be taught to respect the bit, which could also be fixed by some ground training. Either way, good luck. If it was me, I would see if she responds in a hackamore and move forward from there.
     
    01-23-2011, 08:56 PM
  #7
Foal
Thanks everyone!

My avatar is Tara, but that's just a grooming halter she's got on.

I do work with her daily, but don't ride often due to snow and ice that's been a constant companion for awhile now. She's very herd-bound (well, horse-bound) and when I've ridden her with her best friend, she's much better. Still chomps, but doesn't tuck her head in and avoid the bit quite as much. So perhaps it's just an attitude thing...if I lead her away from him, she tries everything to get back to her friend, bucks and rears and backing up included. I know that we need a lot more work on that, and hopefully an improvement in that area will help this issue as well.

I will also try a hackamore! I'd love to use one if it is effective, and if it is, at least I can do two out of three phases in one
     

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