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post #81 of 124 Old 07-05-2012, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by AussieLina View Post
Mmm, just be careful.. I dont know about everyone else, but I have found that green/"problem horses" are worse if you ride bareback.. Maybe because the riders seat bones dig into their back (which they haven't felt before)? I tried it back in the day for the same reasons as you, but because the horse was even more tense I soon learnt to tackle the issues with the saddle before even thinking about riding.

Just schedule a whole day, and saddle her up as if you were breaking her in. I am talking about going through all the steps as if it was her first time from rubbing her down with the gear all the way to lunging her with the saddle on before you even think about getting on. only move to the next step when she is relaxed and indifferent to what you are doing in your current step.

This true. Hunter is only 4 and he hates it when I ride bareback. Doesn't help that my balance isn't what it used to be.
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post #82 of 124 Old 07-08-2012, 02:37 AM
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I had a fun day yesterday... I am retraining this ladys gelding because the horse has become too pushy for her son to feel safe on (its been developing for a long time, he lets the horse do whatever it wants because he just wants to plod along and have fun).

Well after having done a decent amount of ground work, I got on to teach the horse the one rein stop. Everything was going splendidly until we stated practicing it from a walk. Then he decided that he is not going to let some stranger tell him what to do, and started alternating between bucking, rearing, attempting to bolt, spinning and trying to scrape me off his back by using the wall of the arena. He only tried to scrape me off two three times, because I started riding with my whip to the outside and gave him a whack each time he ignored my outside leg. The first time he was so shocked that I would dare to actually use the whip that this ex pacer did a decent shoulder in at collected trot . I stayed at it for almost two hours, until he stopped playing up and walked straight and slowed down & bent his neck when I slid my hand down the rein (rather than forcing me to actually turn his head). I am happy but exhausted! I was supposed to go for a ride today but my leg and core muscles are sore and I feel like being a sook.. :P
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post #83 of 124 Old 07-12-2012, 09:34 AM
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Thumbs up Keep posting!

Thanks for read. I'm learning so much!
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post #84 of 124 Old 07-17-2012, 11:31 AM
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Great thread. And so true. These horse figure us out fast. And like to train us there way.
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post #85 of 124 Old 08-14-2012, 10:34 AM
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Amen, amen you have got it right. Horses learn all the time. They are constantly reading us. We don't pay enough attention to what they are saying to us.
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post #86 of 124 Old 08-20-2012, 04:13 PM
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Hello, I'm new. I agree with you Cherie, I am training my new best friend. I had to put my 29yr old mare down last Oct. I still miss her with all my heart. I just got my Friesian/Paint April 29th He turned 2 May 10th. We are still just doing ground training. I was planning on breaking him to ride next May (if he is ready) but , during the longing training I noticed he would quit & turn towards me but only in one direction, I kept a close eye on him and checked for lameness - sure enough . when the vet came out took x-rays, he has high ring bone on his rear right, the vet said it was most likely due to an injury before I got him because his other pastern is normal. My baby! He was doing so well learning more and more and so quick, I was devastated, he may never be sound. We are doing a new treatment that was actually developed for young horses his age - alcohol injections to fuze the joint. He had his first injection August 9th. Has anyone had these done to thier horse?
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post #87 of 124 Old 08-21-2012, 05:17 PM
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I'm sorry but I can't really help you... But I wanted to say I really hope he will be okay.... Lameness is a terrible thing to have to deal with... Once a horse gets it, it makes it more likely to happen again in the future... We had a horse that had 4 laminitis attacks in 6 years... He was only 9 when we put him down.
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post #88 of 124 Old 08-22-2012, 12:31 PM
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this is true
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post #89 of 124 Old 08-26-2012, 03:27 AM
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Gotta have respect.

Nicely put. I've checked into many trainers so-called best method. It is important to say that there are good and even great points that many of these trainers make, but no method or program is "the" catch-all problem horse program. Each program that has stood the test of time, has done so by having someone who understands the way a horse thinks and processes information, lay out a few good reminders for those who are trying to understand horses. At this level, horses can begin to be less mystical and their training can become much more attainable. After all, understanding your horse, or child, or the people you come in contact with from day to day is a super effective way to build that bond that so many horse owners are yearning to achieve. Your horse wants to please you, but they, just like you, would like to see someone with their best interests in mind calling the shots. If your horse doesn't respect you, they may decide they need to call the shots, even if they like you. Someone needs to lead.
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post #90 of 124 Old 09-12-2012, 04:20 PM
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This post may be better served somewhere else, but I thought I would chime in. My TB's history is unknown to me, he is 17 and pretty much been there done that or so I was told. He is calm, sensitive, and willing but if he gets nervous he backs up. I haven't experienced this much til I went off property with him. My trainer observes he will panic and his mind can shut off.
The more I force him to move forward, or if he gets frazzled, he will walk backwards into anything.
After such an experience - we were returning from a balky trail ride and my riding partner suggested we walk past the driveway. I tried to but Ed began backing up, turning, etc, and I allowed myself to get frazzled, too. So my partner turned into the driveway- in the direction of home. My gelding, still frazzled, then refuses to walk down the driveway to home. If I forced the issue he went backwards the wrong way down the driveway. I didn't have the mind at that moment to walk off property, probably should have tried. It was if he stopped thinking at all, just reacting blindly. So I got off and we did laps up and down past the driveway and onto the road for 200 yards back and forth.

He will go out by himself, which is odd. When we get to a sticking point I use open rein to keep him pointed the right way, and use my voice, and bump him with my legs. I have seen this method work better with him and he remains calmer. He and I have been together for only two months, but my trainer knew him well and we continue to be in a program. I consistently do groundwork and confidence building with him and keep working on leadership/trust.
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