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    01-05-2013, 09:39 PM
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Everyone should see these

What Linda says in the first video is 100% true, I know from firsthand experience. Also, before you comment on here, if you are so much so against parelli that you want to say that he is a fraud, please do not comment on this thanks :)
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    01-05-2013, 09:58 PM
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Green Broke
I only watched the first to see what she said. I'll admit right off that I'm not a Parelli fan. I won't bash them but they aren't for me.

Yes, you need to understand and be able to communicate with your horse. I don't think you need to be a psychologist to work with horses. The left brain, right brain, introvert, extrovert thing is just confusing to me.
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    01-05-2013, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by usandpets    
I only watched the first to see what she said. I'll admit right off that I'm not a Parelli fan. I won't bash them but they aren't for me.

Yes, you need to understand and be able to communicate with your horse. I don't think you need to be a psychologist to work with horses. The left brain, right brain, introvert, extrovert thing is just confusing to me.
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Haha okay.
And... Left brain are logical thinkers, they're the mathematics of horses, constantly thinking and always need something to do. They react by thinking. When in scary situations, in the term of 'fight or flight' they'll use more fight.

Right brain are more kind of emotional, they react with fear, they will use flight more often when put in situations.

And the easiest way to remember the differences between introverts and extroverts is..
Introverts don't technically use their feet as much, in left brains they are 'lazy'. In right brains, again they don't really use their feet as much, but when afraid they tend to 'shut down', then literally explode when things become too much for them to handle.

Extroverts use their feet a lot. I'm not 100% sure how it affects left brains as I've never met a left brain extrovert, but in right brains when they're afraid or don't want to do something, they can't keep still. When they're afraid they'll tend to more try and walk or run off
     
    01-05-2013, 10:11 PM
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Weanling
I am not necessarily a Parelli fan, I do believe that somewhere under all of the commercialism and sales pitches he is a good horseman but I think they over complicate the whole thing. Learn to communicate with your horse who cares about the left brain, right brain stuff.
     
    01-05-2013, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by LynnF    
I am not necessarily a Parelli fan, I do believe that somewhere under all of the commercialism and sales pitches he is a good horseman but I think they over complicate the whole thing. Learn to communicate with your horse who cares about the left brain, right brain stuff.
It's like with people, we are left brain and right brain as well. In general certain types of treatments and rewards work better with right brains than left brains. It's also the same way with introverts and extroverts. That's why it's good to know what general area you can class your horse under
     
    01-05-2013, 10:16 PM
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Weanling
All of this is just common sense to me, you tailor your horses training programme to the individual horse. Simple as that.
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    01-05-2013, 10:19 PM
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I can't say much about Parelli as I have not seen much. I don't get the horsanality thing it seems like such a buzz word. A word people can use to cop out or excuse bad behavior or use without understanding what it means. I watched it on RDF TV and was so lost in all the efforts to sell me something. I think what she says in the first video is good but its also not new.

Right now I am on a Ray Hunt, and Sally Swift kick which talks about riding on a feel and being in harmony with the horse (physically and emotionally). Which seems to be what Parelli is saying, but Ray Hunt and Sally Swift are saying you can impact things via your emotional state. You ride on a feel or with a feel and because you expect and follow through you get the horse calm in your leadership and they do these behaviors you request because you are asking the correct way.

I don't mean to come off as bashing. I just don't know enough about Parelli to say if they are good or bad. I think some of what they say is good but some of it seems marketing based. I also don't think its wise to say blank is the be all and end all of horse training. Its good to have different views. So can someone in a nutshell explain whats up with Parelli?
     
    01-05-2013, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by CessBee    
All of this is just common sense to me, you tailor your horses training programme to the individual horse. Simple as that.
Exactly, you get to know the horse you are working with and what works and doesn't in any situation. I think adding all the extra terms and knowing what type your horse just complicates what should be good common sense horsemanship.
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    01-05-2013, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Nokotaheaven    
Also, before you comment on here, if you are so much so against parelli that you want to say that he is a fraud, please do not comment on this thanks :)
But it doesn't really work that way on a public message board. There is a designated NH section where you could have put this, but you said that everyone must see it, and so you put it in the main training section. Therefore we are entitled to share opinions should we so wish.
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    01-05-2013, 10:53 PM
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Weanling
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Originally Posted by CessBee    
All of this is just common sense to me, you tailor your horses training programme to the individual horse. Simple as that.
Pretty much this. I think the whole horsinality thing is just a BS marketing tactic for people who want a formulaic methodology for understanding horse behavior. It's not that simple but at the same time not that complicated.

I had a Parelli person come out and work with my horse. She had a VERY difficult time working with my horse and it wasn't because he was misbehaving or being naughty or anything like that. She kept trying to categorize him and overgeneralize his behavior which caused the both of them to get frustrated. Don't get me wrong, I think she really was a great horsewoman and not one of those mindless wannabe-followers. However, I do believe that kind of ideology can cause that "copy-paste" type methodology which can make a person very rigid and non-versatile in their views.
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