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post #11 of 21 Old 01-05-2013, 11:33 PM Thread Starter
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But it doesn't really work that way on a public message board. There is a designated NH section where you could have put this, but you said that everyone must see it, and so you put it in the main training section. Therefore we are entitled to share opinions should we so wish.
Right, I realize I made the wrong title for it, and I mean yes you can deffinitely share opinions, but if you are going to go against him solely because you don't fully understand what he's trying to do or because you think he's doing it just to make money off it... That's what I meant sorry. And also every trainer markets, that's part of how you get clients

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post #12 of 21 Old 01-06-2013, 01:58 AM
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When I posted that I don't get the horsenality thing, I wasn't looking for an explanation. It may be easy for you to understand, I get lost in the terms and remembering what they are and do. I am a simple person and like to keep things simple. A reactive horse gets desensitized and a nonreactive horse gets sensitized. A fearful or overly energetic horse gets desensitized and a lazy or dull horse gets sensitized. It's just that simple. It doesn't need to be more complicated by catagorizing or classifying the horses type first. Just my opinion.
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post #13 of 21 Old 01-06-2013, 02:08 AM
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My biggest problem is that the whole left-brain right-brain idea is just wrong. It is based on a study that showed that different hemispheres of the brain did different things - eg, the part of our brain that processes language is on the left. However, our brain is very much built to work as a whole unit, and neither side is dominant over the other. Using language as the continued example, the part of our brain that processes emphasis and intonation is in the right hemisphere of the brain. So if you hear me say "Parelli is AMAZING" and you can detect that I am using sarcasm in that sentence, your brain would be working as a whole unit, as intended.
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post #14 of 21 Old 01-06-2013, 02:11 AM Thread Starter
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When I posted that I don't get the horsenality thing, I wasn't looking for an explanation. It may be easy for you to understand, I get lost in the terms and remembering what they are and do. I am a simple person and like to keep things simple. A reactive horse gets desensitized and a nonreactive horse gets sensitized. A fearful or overly energetic horse gets desensitized and a lazy or dull horse gets sensitized. It's just that simple. It doesn't need to be more complicated by catagorizing or classifying the horses type first. Just my opinion.
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Yeah, sorry, was just trying to help

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My biggest problem is that the whole left-brain right-brain idea is just wrong. It is based on a study that showed that different hemispheres of the brain did different things - eg, the part of our brain that processes language is on the left. However, our brain is very much built to work as a whole unit, and neither side is dominant over the other. Using language as the continued example, the part of our brain that processes emphasis and intonation is in the right hemisphere of the brain. So if you hear me say "Parelli is AMAZING" and you can detect that I am using sarcasm in that sentence, your brain would be working as a whole unit, as intended.
Right, just like how our whole body is built to work as one entire unit. Yet eash organ and part does something different. Same thing with our brains. But after knowing about the left brain-right brain introvert-extrovert for over 7 years now and being able to apply it to each horse I see, even on tv and movies, I can tell what state of mind they're in, and what part of the brain they're using the most at that moment. And on relaxed horses it is pretty easy to see what state of mind they're generally in, thus classify them.

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Right, just like how our whole body is built to work as one entire unit. Yet eash organ and part does something different. Same thing with our brains. But after knowing about the left brain-right brain introvert-extrovert for over 7 years now and being able to apply it to each horse I see, even on tv and movies, I can tell what state of mind they're in, and what part of the brain they're using the most at that moment. And on relaxed horses it is pretty easy to see what state of mind they're generally in, thus classify them.
Ok. Well it works for you, so I am happy for you. I prefer to assess each horse individual based on THEM not what PP thinks they should do according to their "horsanality".
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In school we did test to find out weather we were left brain thinkers or right brain thinkers. Each was different, one was more organized one was disorganized etc etc. We also did tests to find out what kind of learners we were so that we could develop a studying routine/ learning routine that was best suited for each individual student. We did these so that we could be more sucessful and have an easier time in school. Why should it be different for horses? I think it makes total sense. Why wouldnt you find out which ways work best for your horse? If it makes learning and training easier on him and he can understand it better I see no reasons not to. I agree 100% with Parelli and those who are parelli based. Sure parelli seems a bit comercialized sometimes but I believe that it works for horses and their trainers. But like anything everyone has their own way of doing it, who knows maybe its because your a right brain thinker that you don't like the ways of parelli and they don't work for you ;) I personally have been taught by a lady who has learned from Jonathon Field, who is parelli based and has worked with Pat and I think he's wonderful! But everyone and every horse is different, different ways work for different people and horses. I don't believe in one set way to train horses, that would be silly because that's not how the world works!
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Ok. Well it works for you, so I am happy for you. I prefer to assess each horse individual based on THEM not what PP thinks they should do according to their "horsanality".
Okay, thank you. And yes, it is easier for me to judge what they are. Now having said that, just like people they can at times be any of those general classes, not just always one, but in general they fall under a class. Like, I have met a lot of right brain introverts and extroverts, and a few left brain introverts, but only one left brain extrovert. For me, having scientific fact behind it doesn't work, I have to see it actually done with a horse before I actually believe it works. Same with how trainers do things... Actually, I watched a Clinton Anderson video tonight, I like his method and technique, I did learn from it, and I did see what he was aiming to accomplish, but the only thing I didn't like was the whole time he worked with the foal it was fearful of him and what he was doing to it

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In school we did test to find out weather we were left brain thinkers or right brain thinkers. Each was different, one was more organized one was disorganized etc etc. We also did tests to find out what kind of learners we were so that we could develop a studying routine/ learning routine that was best suited for each individual student. We did these so that we could be more sucessful and have an easier time in school. Why should it be different for horses? I think it makes total sense. Why wouldnt you find out which ways work best for your horse? If it makes learning and training easier on him and he can understand it better I see no reasons not to. I agree 100% with Parelli and those who are parelli based. Sure parelli seems a bit comercialized sometimes but I believe that it works for horses and their trainers. But like anything everyone has their own way of doing it, who knows maybe its because your a right brain thinker that you don't like the ways of parelli and they don't work for you ;) I personally have been taught by a lady who has learned from Jonathon Field, who is parelli based and has worked with Pat and I think he's wonderful! But everyone and every horse is different, different ways work for different people and horses. I don't believe in one set way to train horses, that would be silly because that's not how the world works!
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Isn't it just the same thing as thinking of a horse as reactive or calm? It's just with a PP spin, so people think it's AMAZING when really it's not at all.
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