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    03-23-2012, 12:15 AM
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Banned
Falling in at canter

I just started exercising a giant Belgian and in doing so, try to get him to canter. Not too many people at the barn are even capable of getting even a little canter out of him. The major problem is that he falls in. Well, not really falls in, but almost does a completely 180. When you ask him to canter, he instantly leans to the side, turns a tight circle, and is almost going the other direction. When I finally get him to canter we do fine on the straightway, but when we turn, he always does the same thing - turning tight and almost in a 180. I use a lot of leg, which helps a little, but I don't know how much more leg I can use. I try to keep him on his hind end as well.
He's a lovely horse and really tries, so I don't really see it as an evasive thing (but it might be... he never stops after he falls in; he'll keep trotting).
Should I ride him and when it comes to the canter lunge him? I've lunged him before and he was able to go around at the canter once (with A LOT of encouragement). Any advice would be helpful. Thanks.
     
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    03-23-2012, 08:43 AM
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Foal
He needs balance and you need more control over his shoulders. Do you know how to teach him to two track, leg yields and sidepass? Work on trotting in a perfect circle and just focus on keeping him upright before you move onto the canter. It sounds like he's not used to a person being on his back at the canter.

Really work on gaining control of his whole body. Head, shoulders, rib cage, hips. Get this all down on ground work before you attempt to try it in the saddle.
     
    03-23-2012, 10:30 AM
  #3
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At the trot he is wonderful and I have no trouble with this at all. He's still learning things like two track, leg yield, and sidepass, but he does them pretty well; he's fairly new to the barn and was never taught these before. I also do a lot of circling with him.
That makes sense that he probably isn't used to a person on his back at the canter. Before they got him, he was basically lived in a field and every once in a blue moon his owners would ride him on a trail; only walk and trot.

So basically, you recommend still working at walk and trot and then lunge him for the canter?
     
    03-23-2012, 10:34 AM
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Foal
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Originally Posted by DevilsMariah    
At the trot he is wonderful and I have no trouble with this at all. He's still learning things like two track, leg yield, and sidepass, but he does them pretty well; he's fairly new to the barn and was never taught these before. I also do a lot of circling with him.
That makes sense that he probably isn't used to a person on his back at the canter. Before they got him, he was basically lived in a field and every once in a blue moon his owners would ride him on a trail; only walk and trot.

So basically, you recommend still working at walk and trot and then lunge him for the canter?
Kind of. He isn't ready for the canter yet. You really need to work on gaining control of all of his body and working on his balance. If he was in a field for most of his life, then he probably didn't canter much.

What I mean by kind of is don't just work on him walking and trotting, work on him at the walk and trot doing leg yields and side passes, circles, serpentines, etc. And do a lot of ground work with him.
     
    03-23-2012, 10:41 AM
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mls
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Originally Posted by DevilsMariah    
I also do a lot of circling with him.

So basically, you recommend still working at walk and trot and then lunge him for the canter?
My guess is he drops his shoulder at a trot too if you do that much circling.

If you do a lot of lunge work at the canter he has no support and leaning will get worse.

While he is learning to canter under saddle, do not circle. Canter up the long wall/rail trot the short side and then pick up the canter again. SQUARE corners to keep him upright. It will take a LOT of leg on your part. Inside leg and outside seat bone.
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    03-23-2012, 10:58 AM
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When I trot him I do serpentines, leg yield, all that stuff.

I was originally told to do a lot of circling, but i'll hold off a little on that. I have been asking for the canter on the long side.
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    03-23-2012, 11:03 AM
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mls
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Originally Posted by DevilsMariah    
When I trot him I do serpentines, leg yield, all that stuff.

I was originally told to do a lot of circling, but i'll hold off a little on that. I have been asking for the canter on the long side.
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Be sure to sit hard to bring him down to a trot before you start your turn. Change up where you ask though or when you start to canter the entire arena, he will have it in his head that he breaks gait at a certain point.

Cantering on trail will help a lot too.
     
    03-23-2012, 11:04 AM
  #8
Weanling
Sometimes, in an effort to teach a horse to pick up the correct lead when asked to canter, a rider will turn the horse sharply in the direction of the lead they want him to take. If this is the case, and what was done with him, it may be that he thinks he's supposed to turn sharply when you apply the aids to ask for the canter.
My dressage instructor had me hold my hands cookie-sheet width apart to support my horse's shoulder, along with using inside leg to keep her up for quite some time when my horse was having balance issues at the canter.... Don't know if that would help you at all.
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    03-23-2012, 11:58 AM
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Thanks. I'm about to leave to go ride him, so we'll see how it goes.

I'd love to ride him on trails, but since I'm new to the barn, I don't know exactly how to access the trails and there's usually only one other person there - a volunteer that always seems to be in her own world (I'm sure I could find it, but I don't want to wander around with the horse on the farm, trying to find a place to work with him).
     

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