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  • Hackamore for retraining ottb
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    10-29-2009, 07:47 AM
  #1
Foal
Fast

7 yr old OTTB thoroughbred
At the walk he's fine, but once you start trotting he just wants to canter. I have to constantly seesaw to keep him at a steady pace, the second I stop he canters. At the canter he just wants to go faster, again unless I seesaw, although it's not so bad as at the trot. Sometimes the problem isn't even there, but only about 10% of the time. He's ridden in a hackamore since he absolutely cannot stand a bit. I don't work in an arena ever, I'm only ever out on the trails, so boring circle work is totally out of the question. Also, his back is fine, no soreness or anything. What can I dooooo?!
     
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    10-29-2009, 08:12 AM
  #2
Showing
It sounds like there are some holes in your horse's training. The solution is to do what you don't seem to want to do and that is to go back to the beginning - in a ring - and and start with ground work. It is most helpful to have an enclosed area and not an open field to work with him.

See-sawing his mouth is not the answer and will lead to a hard mouth and other problems - going to a stronger bit is not the answer either. He has obviously missed some important lessons in his retraining and you need to go back and fix them before taking him out in the fields
     
    10-29-2009, 08:21 AM
  #3
Banned
I sometimes have the same problem with my guy. I also ride in a hackamore, so have you tried half-halting him and when he gets excited, slowing down to a walk? You could even go as far as to back him up for a bit and start again.

But most OTTBS are just going to be fast, its because their trot/canters are so extended. Have you ever just let him go and see if he actually moves into a canter or a slow gallop? You have to really use your seat with OTTB's, try sitting a little heavier in your saddle when you want him to go slower, my gelding REALLY responds well to that.
     
    10-29-2009, 11:16 AM
  #4
Foal
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Originally Posted by justsambam08    
I sometimes have the same problem with my guy. I also ride in a hackamore, so have you tried half-halting him and when he gets excited, slowing down to a walk? You could even go as far as to back him up for a bit and start again.

But most OTTBS are just going to be fast, its because their trot/canters are so extended. Have you ever just let him go and see if he actually moves into a canter or a slow gallop? You have to really use your seat with OTTB's, try sitting a little heavier in your saddle when you want him to go slower, my gelding REALLY responds well to that.
Well I have tried just letting him go, and he just runs as fast as he can. I mean it's fun but it's nice to have him go the pace that I want him to haha. And about the heavier seat, I will definitely try that thank you!



As for the other post, please read everything I said before responding.
Pretty sure I won't hurt my horses MOUTH in a HACKAMORE.

Lol.
     
    10-29-2009, 11:55 AM
  #5
Trained
First you have a horse who was trained to run and run full. You are going to need to go into an arena and work him like it or not. First start out at a trot as you said he is fine at the walk. Make sure you knows whoa. Then set him at a pace. If he speeds up STOP him make him back and then ask again. If he speeds up STOP him make him back up. When I say stop him I mean STOP him drag him into the ground if you have to. It will not take lone for him to learn that once you set a pace he needs to stay at that pace. Do not help him. Let him make the mistake. Then correct the mistake. I know first hand this will work as keeping a constant pace with NO rein contact is very very important in my discipline.
     
    10-29-2009, 01:28 PM
  #6
Foal
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Originally Posted by nrhareiner    
First you have a horse who was trained to run and run full. You are going to need to go into an arena and work him like it or not. First start out at a trot as you said he is fine at the walk. Make sure you knows whoa. Then set him at a pace. If he speeds up STOP him make him back and then ask again. If he speeds up STOP him make him back up. When I say stop him I mean STOP him drag him into the ground if you have to. It will not take lone for him to learn that once you set a pace he needs to stay at that pace. Do not help him. Let him make the mistake. Then correct the mistake. I know first hand this will work as keeping a constant pace with NO rein contact is very very important in my discipline.
I do not have access to any form of arena nor can I ride in his pasture. But I can try that on the trail, it's not like he is too hard to stop. He knows what I want when I tell him to walk and does so pretty easily, it's just keeping him at a steady pace that's tough.
     
    10-29-2009, 01:43 PM
  #7
Trained
If the footing it good on the trail give it a try. It is all about making it hard for him to keep gaining speed. Stopping and starting back up is hard. So the min. He starts to speed up make him stop and back. This has never failed me with any of my reiners. I even will do it with the finished horses if they start to change speed with out being asked.
     
    10-29-2009, 04:19 PM
  #8
Foal
Alright I'll definitely have to start doing that, thanks!
     
    10-29-2009, 06:06 PM
  #9
Trained
When someone has a problem with a horse at the trot they probably have the same problem at the walk but the extra speed makes it more evident. I would do alot of walk/trot transitions and move on to trot/canter only when the walk/trot transition if PERFECT.
     

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