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    08-12-2009, 08:11 PM
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Trained
Question Fearless and under stimulated filly.

I would like to apologize in advance for the novel you are about to read. =]

My filly, Gracie, is turning a year old in a week or so. She really is brilliant, I just love her. She learns so quickly, she is so sweet, and I'm so excited to be able to work with her.

The problem? She is totally fearless. I mean, she is the most UN-reactive creature I've ever met. Thank god she isn't a wild pony, because she wouldn't survive.

And why is this a problem? She's decided she doesn't care that my hot fence shocks her, she's going through it to get to the grass on the other side. She's giving herself welts. I mean, she isn't running through, she's crawling through, ever so slowly. And since she doesn't scare, I don't know how to make the fence line a "bad place." I could throw a pine cone at her every time she touches it, but she wouldn't care. I could yell at her, I could smack her, and she might scoff and trot away, but she'll come back, because she isn't afraid.

I don't want anyone to think I want to use fear to train my horse, because that's not how I go about things, but the horse has to have a "fear" of a consequence. If horse bolts, horse will quite rudely be brought back to a halt. Horse should learn that when it bolts, bad things happens. It has to "fear" the bad thing that will happen. Gracie does not "fear."

I've decided that she is also under stimulated. I think that's why she is so keen on crawling her way through the fence. She's bored. There is only so much I can do with her. She's still a baby, so I won't work her hard enough for her to sweat. I'm limited to grooming almost every day, working on her leading skills, and the occasional walk. Obviously, what I'm doing isn't enough, and I simply don't have time to go on these walks twice a day or anything.

I'm thinking about altering her feed. She's on Omolene 100, and I'm thinking it might be giving her too much energy or protein or something? I'm going to put a Jolly Ball in the pasture, even though she never played with it when she was in the stall at night. I'm also going to put a caution cone outside. Maybe that's fun? AND I'm going to put a basketball or soccer ball or something in their water. Assuming, of course, it won't scare the other two horses that are so much bigger babies at 9 and 17 than Gracie is at not-even 1. O_O

I have also been thinking that when I DO start riding Gracie for real [meaning after she is solid under saddle for a few years,] a ride 5 days a week won't be enough to keep her mind healthy. I'm planning on bouncing around and finding what she likes to do. She WILL learn to carry herself correctly though, we will still school in dressage. But other than that, I'm going to do what she wants to do. And I'm thinking doing things with boring, inanimate objects won't be enough for her either. So I'm pondering putting her on cows. Not that I have cows, or any experience with cutting or even western games, but I can just see her getting bored super easily, and what more can keep her entertained than getting to chase an animal with a mind of its own?

I'm not sure I need advice. But if anyone has any experience with a horse so fearless, or any helpful hints on the whole cow horse industry, is welcome to respond. =]

And two friendly reminders for anyone who decided to skim...
I AM NOT AND DO NOT PLAN ON USING FEAR TO TRAIN THIS FILLY.
I DO NOT PLAN ON STARTING WITH COWS UNTIL SHE IS SOLID UNDER SADDLE AND AT LEAST 6 YEARS OLD.

Sorry to be loud, I just don't need someone yelling at me for something I'm not doing or planning to do.
     
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    08-13-2009, 12:49 AM
  #2
Yearling
*scratching head* I'm not sure how a horse could crawl through a hot fence? Do you not have the pasture fenced with anything but a hot wire? It don't think your horse is "fearless" - I think your electric fence isn't working properly. Have you tested it with a voltmeter designed for electric fences? If your fence is not properly installed and grounded, it won't shock or be so weak that the horse won't feel it. Could be the fence is grounded out or improperly installed.
     
    08-13-2009, 09:53 AM
  #3
Trained
The fence is most definitely on. I suppose it could be a little dull, but I've touched it and got a decent shock, and it's giving her welts because it keeps shocking her. The problem is it's not my fence, and I'm having a hell of a time getting the property owner to get out and do anything.

The fence she is going through is four strands of hot tape, connected every ten feet or so with a wood post. She sticks her head through the third and fourth strand at the top, and presses against it until it loosens, then she swings a leg over and pushes, then the other front leg. Then she moves sideways to get her back legs through. I watched her do it while I was riding yesterday morning. She actually got one of her legs stuck, and just kept putting it down and picking it up and then just turned around and walked out. There wasn't a moment of panic.
     
    08-13-2009, 01:48 PM
  #4
Yearling
LOL No brain no pain....... Just kidding...... I read your second post about how she was doing it and just laughed.

How about giving her more hay to munch on, then maybe the grass won't look greener on the other side of that fence.....Can she be put into a paddock that's a wood rail?
     
    08-13-2009, 01:54 PM
  #5
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Originally Posted by riccil0ve    
The fence is most definitely on. I suppose it could be a little dull, but I've touched it and got a decent shock, and it's giving her welts because it keeps shocking her. The problem is it's not my fence, and I'm having a hell of a time getting the property owner to get out and do anything.

The fence she is going through is four strands of hot tape, connected every ten feet or so with a wood post. She sticks her head through the third and fourth strand at the top, and presses against it until it loosens, then she swings a leg over and pushes, then the other front leg. Then she moves sideways to get her back legs through. I watched her do it while I was riding yesterday morning. She actually got one of her legs stuck, and just kept putting it down and picking it up and then just turned around and walked out. There wasn't a moment of panic.
I have RAMM fencing and I've seen Ri do this.
     

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