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post #11 of 25 Old 05-10-2013, 05:50 PM
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This can be a sensitive subject with so many different variables that... it will numb you and your horses minds.

I did A LOT of research. Most of it garbage for me and my horses. I stopped... and looked at the what, when, where and came up with the whys.

Once I figured those out I revised my whole thinking and understood the problem that I had... and my horses.

New plan and I can load a horse in 30 seconds without any duress or harm to horse OR me. IMO... after 4 minutes... you got big trouble. You've been fighting your horse and reinforcing the horse NOT wanting to load.

30 second load. The faster is safer and it's done.
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I can't leave him tied in the trailer without the butt bar being up because hell freak out and break the trailer tie or his halter by backing out. Today my friend brought the trailer and he walked onto the ramp then backed out. So we circled to try again and he planted his feet and I gave a small tug and said c'mon. And he walked on. Waited 5 seconds then pulled back and backed out. He did it twice but I decided to leave it on a good note that atleast he loaded in the trailer. I also wasnt planning on loading him today either.
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So you can't circle him to get him out then? That's the prroblem. He knows he can get off the trailer when he wants too by throwin a fit and backing off. Id start by gettin a trailer big enough for him to circle around instead of backin out of.

Start circling him and walkin out forward if the trailer will allow. And yes- walk him on the trailer then circle him around and walk right off.. its a simple fix.
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so you can't circle him to get him out then? That's the prroblem. He knows he can get off the trailer when he wants too by throwin a fit and backing off. Id start by gettin a trailer big enough for him to circle around instead of backin out of.

Start circling him and walkin out forward if the trailer will allow. And yes- walk him on the trailer then circle him around and walk right off.. its a simple fix.
Circle, circle and more circles. I TOTALLY DISAGREE! I'll circle my horse for a lot of reasons but I found that this is the wrong time to do so. Some things JUST DO NOT work for all. This is NOT a 'I saw this video and it worked for me", situation.

Each trailer, horse and owner is different. Finding the key is the objective for an easy and less stress for horse and loader.

READ the other threads. Lot's of good ideas. It will take some time to recognize what your horse is telling you. Recognize the problem and adjust.

I boost about my 30 second load and no stress. BUT... I had to read, watch and learn from a lot of others. THEN I threw it all out and consulted with myself and my horses. My horses gave me the answers that no one else had a clue about.

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Circle, circle and more circles. I TOTALLY DISAGREE! I'll circle my horse for a lot of reasons but I found that this is the wrong time to do so. Some things JUST DO NOT work for all. This is NOT a 'I saw this video and it worked for me", situation.

Each trailer, horse and owner is different. Finding the key is the objective for an easy and less stress for horse and loader.

READ the other threads. Lot's of good ideas. It will take some time to recognize what your horse is telling you. Recognize the problem and adjust.

I boost about my 30 second load and no stress. BUT... I had to read, watch and learn from a lot of others. THEN I threw it all out and consulted with myself and my horses. My horses gave me the answers that no one else had a clue about.

Perfectly fine with me that you disagree. But I do think you misunderstood?

not sayin circle if he don't load-- Im sayin turn the horse around in the trailer--spin him around so he aint backin off the trailer, lol. Not turn him in a circle in the trailer.

How can you stop a horse from backin up? Turnin a circle. ;)



Oh and I didnt watch a video-- this is from personal experiences I've had with other horses in my life.. lol.


I don't want you to think im bein rude-- but if you can get a horse in a trailer in less that 30 seconds that has loadin issues-- I wanna shake your hand!!!

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perfectly fine with me that you disagree. But I do think you misunderstood?

not sayin circle if he don't load-- Im sayin turn the horse around in the trailer--spin him around so he aint backin off the trailer, lol. Not turn him in a circle in the trailer.

How can you stop a horse from backin up? Turnin a circle. ;)



Oh and I didnt watch a video-- this is from personal experiences I've had with other horses in my life.. lol.


I don't want you to think im bein rude-- but if you can get a horse in a trailer in less that 30 seconds that has loadin issues-- I wanna shake your hand!!!

You didn't read the other threads.
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You didn't read the other threads.


I know.



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I think it's a bit asinine to just sell the trailer because I can't circle him and turn in around in it. It's a two horse straight load that's just shy of 6 foot wide. Definitely not selling the trailer. Ill just keep researching and find what works for him...
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I think it's a bit asinine to just sell the trailer because I can't circle him and turn in around in it. It's a two horse straight load that's just shy of 6 foot wide. Definitely not selling the trailer. Ill just keep researching and find what works for him...
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I musta misstyped.. yall think I want to do a full circle in the trailer?

I want you to walk him 'through' the trailer-- instead of stopping just turn him right out of the trailer a few times.

Definitely your problem and not mine- I would never have this issue but was only offering my knowledge and experience to the table to help you fix yours.


Im sorry if I offended anyone that was not my intentions.
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I know backing out is not your issue here.
But I do prefer to back a horse out of a trailer. We had an issue a few years ago with a trailer where backing was the option. It was quite a surprise that we had to convince him to get out. We now have a bigger/wider trailer but I want them to be confident that the ground is there behind them when they step out.
Keep working with him. He'll get better. : )

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I think what toto is trying to say is that if you borrow a trailer big enough to walk the horse into and then do a 180 and walk the horse back out head first to the point the horse is waiting to be head pointed at the door then it won't be constantly wanting to back out. It thinks that it has to be facing the door to get out.

I understand that training thought, but don't understand how it works once you are back to a straight load trailer that doesn't have the option to do that. Wouldn't that make them hard to back out because they are expecting you to show them the forward motion to exit the trailer? Then having to retrain again?


I am going to be doing a refresher course with all five of my horses once I get this trailer rebuilt from all of the cancer in it. It's an older 2 horse straight load. I do plan on parking the trailer in the pasture with the doors open and hay up in the feeder shelf. I will go out there after a week of it being next to the hay ring and start working on their loading, staying loaded with the other horses walking all around the trailer and unloading them.
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