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    12-04-2007, 11:09 PM
  #1
Foal
Fighting the Briddle

I have a 4 year old quarter horse and recently he is really fighting putting his briddle on, throwing his head and moving around alot. I asked a friend she mentioned with his age he could be getting a tooth. Can this cause him to act this way or is he just being a pain?

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    12-05-2007, 02:05 AM
  #2
Yearling
Does he have wolf teeth? Also what kind of bridle is this? Have you ever tried riding with just the halter? He does not like the bridle and he is doing his best to communicate this to you. How do you handle his mouth, constant pulling? Sometimes you need to watch yourself and put yourself in his possistion.
     
    12-05-2007, 03:41 AM
  #3
Yearling
It could be his teeth... I have a tb like that atm.. although he just turned six. He is just alittle head shy. And also, check that his pole isnt out... get him checked over by a ciro...or a bowen therpist. He is either scared or hurt.
     
    12-05-2007, 04:07 PM
  #4
Foal
I am not sure what wolf teeth is, so I don't know. I have only had him for a few months. At first he would move his head some, how it has gotten worse.

The briddle is a leather briddle with a tom thumb bit.

No, I have not tried ridding him with just a halter. I use a rope halter with the lead attached so it is a little hard to use the rope as reins.

No he doesnt pull on it once I have it on him, it's just getting the briddle on.

Thanks for the help, I will see if I can't get someone to take a look at his teeth and pole.
     
    12-05-2007, 05:06 PM
  #5
Yearling
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The briddle is a leather briddle with a tom thumb bit.

No, I have not tried ridding him with just a halter. I use a rope halter with the lead attached so it is a little hard to use the rope as reins.
Ouch, no offense but I don't like tom thumbs....I think I found your problem...see if going down to a snaffle works. (as in English snaffle to some people.) If you ride western let me reassure you that it is okay to ride with an English snaffle....

Hears something I found on the net very similar to your problem.



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Using a Tom Thumb Bit

I have a horse that constantly tosses her head and fools with the bit. I use a tom thumb with her. Please give me a short education on bits. Any suggestions? I tried riding her with just a halter to entertain the idea of a hackamore. She was difficult to stop. What would be the next step?




Tom Thumbs are VERY harsh and a commonly misunderstood bit (this bit is sometimes called a western snaffle or shanked snaffle). People tend to think they are mild because they think it is a snaffle, because the mouthpiece is jointed. In fact, it is a leverage bit, not a snaffle at all, and when you pull back on both reins at the same time, the joint pushes into the roof of the horse's mouth, causing a gaping mouth, and the sides of the bit squeeze the jaw in what is referred to as the "nutcracker" effect. Almost all horses with this bit will open their mouth and try to evade the pressure and pain. A true snaffle is a "direct-pressure" bit (as opposed to a leverage bit), meaning that the rein is connected directly across from the mouthpiece of the bit allowing direct contact with the corners of the horse's mouth; a pound of pull on the reins creates a pound of pressure on the side of the horse's mouth. A leverage bit has a shank, which stretches above and below the mouthpiece, with the reins attached at the bottom of the shank. A pull on the shank creates leverage with the horse's mouth as the fulcrum. The ratio of shank above the bit to shank below the bit dictates the amount of leverage created. If there is one inch above the mouthpiece and two inches of shank below the mouthpiece, the bit has a one to two ratio; one pound of pull creates two pounds of pressure on the horse's mouth. In a leverage bit, the horse feels pressure on the poll, cheeks, chin, mouth and palate. The only time I would use a Tom Thumb is with a small child riding a big insensitive horse that needs the extra leverage. A regular curb bit is milder. I would suggest using a regular snaffle or a side-pull or if you need a little extra brakes, try a kimberwicke.
on this site- http://www.cha-ahse.org/railarticles/tom.htm

I would only suggest using a regular snaffle, not a side pull or a kimberwicke.

Oh also, I ride with rope halters, no bits or anything. I just tie the end of the lead rope to the halter.....( I am very much into parelli.)
     
    12-05-2007, 06:18 PM
  #6
Foal
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Originally Posted by dkbackes
I am not sure what wolf teeth is, so I don't know. I have only had him for a few months. At first he would move his head some, how it has gotten worse.
If you haven't already, have his teeth done. For most horses should be done annually. I'd do this before trying to ride him again.

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The briddle is a leather briddle with a tom thumb bit.
Back off to a less severe bit. He may be associating the bridling with the discomfort about to happen when ridden.

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No he doesnt pull on it once I have it on him, it's just getting the briddle on.
It can also be that he had some discomfort from someone putting the bridle on in a hurry. Perhaps someone banged his teeth with the bit or really bent his ears? Take your time putting it on, place the bit gently in his mouth, and give him a moment to accept the bit before pulling bridle over his ears. Handle him gently and reassure him, especially for the times he is trying to ne good.
     
    12-05-2007, 06:22 PM
  #7
Started
Uhg, get rid of that tom thumb! It's a horrible bit. Like said already, get a nice snaffle.

I sometimes ride in just a halter as well, and you don't have to have 2 reins It's a good idea to be able to ride your horse with just 1 rein.....it makes you a better and more natural rider.
     
    12-07-2007, 01:21 PM
  #8
Foal
Thank you for all of the great remarks. I thought that the tom thumb was supposed to be one of the more gentle bits. I will defanitely get something different.

I would love to ride in just the halter with out the bit, I know that has to be more comfortable for the horse. I will try to find a good halter for riding.

Thanks again!!!

I want to keep him happy and not in pain so we both have a good ride....
     

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