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    10-10-2009, 11:23 PM
  #1
Yearling
Question Filly rears when I touch the halter...

OKay, well I got two mini mares yesterday. The three year old is great. But the 19 month old is another story..lol

When they arrived yesterday about 12:30 I put them in the field with Arrow (my 17 month old colt) everything was fine and I left them to settle in and get used to eachother. About 5 in the evening is when I usually feed Arrow so I went out to grain them. Caught them with little problems, needed to bribe them with food. But everything was going good.

So we get to my problem.. This morning at 8 am is when I feed, I went out there got Arrow and Sanuye (the three year old) put them in their spots and went to get Belles (the filly I'm having the problem with). She came up to me and I petter all over her and went to grab her halter slowly because they are a little skittish and she flips and rears up and starts pawing. Well I calmed her down and when I asked her to walk she done it again.. But after I got the rope on her she was fine. I'm puzzled. She only does it when my hand is there. But if I get the rope on her she is fine..

What do you think is causing this and how can I get her over it? I've never had this problem before..I am pretty sure they may have both been abused previously.. They are VERY nrevious and jumpy around men, but fine with woman and kids.

Thanks in advance :)
     
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    10-10-2009, 11:36 PM
  #2
Green Broke
I would do a lot of work with her face. Eve was like this when she first came to us, she dang near yanked my arm right out of it's socket a few times when I was foolish enough to grab her halter. It may take two people, but in an enclosed space do a lot of gentle petting on her face and really get her used to you taking the halter on and off.

I also had an abused Arabian mare who was the same way. If you even reached a hand towards her face, she'd rear violently. I had to spend lots of time with her in the stall, talking to her and petting her shoulder until she stopped shaking and slowly working my way up her neck, praising her every time she relaxed. It took many weeks for her to get used to it, but eventually she was letting me touch her face if I moved slowly up her neck. Then I graduated to slowly slipping her halter on and off and encouraging her to eat grain from my hand (she had no idea what grain was, she spent 3 months pissing on her hay and eating the straw because it was all she knew) so that SHE was approaching ME and therefore allowing her to proceed within her own comfort zone.

Good luck!
     
    10-10-2009, 11:44 PM
  #3
Trained
She may have only been taught how to lead by someone simply snapping a lead rope on her, and pulling her along. She was probably never worked with in such a way that she really ever got used to a halter and lead.

When you get her caught each time, spend alot of time doing approach and retreats to get her used your hands touching her face and chin. Pet her in an area she likes, then move gradually closer to her head, ears, and chin...moving away before she can either pull away, or get scared enough to move away. Work on taking her halter on and off, alot as well.

As far as leading, just keep working with her. Slow and gradual. If she'll accept treats, I would treat her; it takes a horse alot of trust to eat from your hand, atleast previously abused ones. I would start teaching her to disengage her hind quarters, and front end, so you have a way to keep her 'thinking' especially when you feel she is getting nervous enough to react. Pet her all over her neck as you walk, if you can, so she continues to get used to you touching her. If she walked before you got her, she may just need time to learn how to trust you most of all. She's a baby, yet, so as long as you are out there everyday handling her a little bit, she will come around. A little bit of trust goes a long way...
     
    10-10-2009, 11:49 PM
  #4
Yearling
Thanks to you both. This may be a dumb question but I want to ask anyway. What does disengage her hind quarters, and front end mean? And how do I do that? Sorry if it's dumb question.
     
    10-11-2009, 07:30 AM
  #5
Weanling
Im hoping the colt you put them in with is gelded :) If not he can and will breed young mares.

Sounds like you are leaving the halter on her which if that has always been done will make a horse head shy. We never ever leave halters on horses. I have brought in many that have had halters grown into their head because they were left on so long and this makes them very very head shy.

Also just an fyi all new horses should be quarantined for 20 days. If you put them in with your herd right off you could be in for trouble. Many times illness wont show up for 2 weeks so most vets recommend 20 days.
     
    10-11-2009, 09:28 AM
  #6
Yearling
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Originally Posted by weefoal    
Im hoping the colt you put them in with is gelded :) If not he can and will breed young mares.

Sounds like you are leaving the halter on her which if that has always been done will make a horse head shy. We never ever leave halters on horses. I have brought in many that have had halters grown into their head because they were left on so long and this makes them very very head shy.

Also just an fyi all new horses should be quarantined for 20 days. If you put them in with your herd right off you could be in for trouble. Many times illness wont show up for 2 weeks so most vets recommend 20 days.
He isn't gelded but is being watched closely (Hasn't tried anything or even acted like it). I don't normally leave halters on my horses but I do have a breakaway halter on her or I wouldn't be able to get my hands on her at all.. I'm aware of the chances of illness.. Everyone has been vetted and has all papers in order but I know theres always a chance. My brother had gotten a TWH stud in earlier then he was supposed to though and he is in out "quarantine" field. So I didn't have much of a choice.
     
    10-11-2009, 10:47 AM
  #7
Weanling
Not at all trying to argue with you but he will breed them and it can happen so fast you wont even know unless you were watching every second. You can turn your back to fill a water trough and they can be done with the act and you never see it. Any resulting foal will not be able to obtain papers as the stallion and mare are both too young to register foals out of

A friend of mine just had a yearling filly abort a 4 month old fetus from being bred. She never saw them breed but they obviously did. Just trying to save you and your filly some heart break

Even if its a break away halter it has been my experience that horses that wear them 24/7 get head shy and hate their halter. If you can't catch her the best thing to do is stall her and keep in her in her own pen until she is trained to catch
     
    10-11-2009, 10:53 AM
  #8
Yearling
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Originally Posted by weefoal    
Not at all trying to argue with you but he will breed them and it can happen so fast you wont even know unless you were watching every second. You can turn your back to fill a water trough and they can be done with the act and you never see it. Any resulting foal will not be able to obtain papers as the stallion and mare are both too young to register foals out of

A friend of mine just had a yearling filly abort a 4 month old fetus from being bred. She never saw them breed but they obviously did. Just trying to save you and your filly some heart break

Even if its a break away halter it has been my experience that horses that wear them 24/7 get head shy and hate their halter. If you can't catch her the best thing to do is stall her and keep in her in her own pen until she is trained to catch

No I don't mean to argue but he isn't with them all the time.. Only when I am out there doing things. And the foal wouldn't be registered anyways (Just saying so everyone knows..) because the filly is just grade. I have no stable. I will work with her more today in the roundpen.
     

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