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    07-08-2010, 04:03 PM
Ok I just spoke with my dad (I was curious) and he said that it was normal procedure to start them in the pond. Apparently the same sort of reasoning others had given.
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    07-08-2010, 04:11 PM
Huh, I am not sure I would be terribly comfortable with that. Of course, many of the horses that I start are not terribly well behaved to start with, but I would feel like I was seriously lacking control in water. That may just be all in my mind but IDK. Plus, it doesn't help that I don't particularly like water to begin with .
    07-08-2010, 04:13 PM
Green Broke
I used to start greenies that way whenever I could. It's a lot less stressful for them to use the water to help you when you mount, rather than throw a leg over. The water will support some of your weight and that's less of a change for the horse to deal with, even when they have been groundworked extensively and are used to weight leaning over them. Most of mine would be perfectly happy with me being up there by the time they walked out of the pond, and never gave thought to how to get me off. I never had one put up a fight with this method, though I have had some issues with first mounting in a round pen.
    07-08-2010, 04:15 PM
I don't know what part of TX you're from Smrobs, but I'm always afraid to go in the water when I'm down there. I've got a ridiculous fear of snakes and a completely unreasonable fear of water. Both are fairly controllable on their own, but you combine them (your wonderful water moccaisons) and I don't think I'd be of any use. I'd probably do nothing but make the horse afraid of water.
    07-08-2010, 04:16 PM
Green Broke
Of course, for the way I've done it to be helpful you have to get in to the point of the water being at back level for the horse, just at the point where they might be ready to start swimming.
    07-08-2010, 04:24 PM
Originally Posted by MN Tigerstripes    
I don't know what part of TX you're from Smrobs, but I'm always afraid to go in the water when I'm down there. I've got a ridiculous fear of snakes and a completely unreasonable fear of water. Both are fairly controllable on their own, but you combine them (your wonderful water moccaisons) and I don't think I'd be of any use. I'd probably do nothing but make the horse afraid of water.
Yeah, water mocassins(sp?) tend to stay around the lakes that are thickly wooded. I do have a small lake that I can take my broker horses to that is actually a sandy beach and I have never seen a snake there. However, I share your fear of water. If I am on a broke horse that I trust, I can cross the deepest lake, but by myself, you won't get me farther out than knee deep. Something about not being able to see what's under there really freaks me out. In water that's clear no matter how deep, I'm fine, just so long as I can see the bottom.
    07-08-2010, 04:33 PM
I'm pretty much the same. My mom told me that I loved water as a young child, but my uncle let me watch Jaws 2 when I was like 3 and had me promise not to tell anyone. Apparently they took me to the beach the next summer and I had a complete breakdown. Ever since then I really have to struggle in the water. Even in swimming pools. Logically I know there isn't anything there, but it's like this complete panic inside of my body and everytime I close my eyes I see myself getting eaten.. *shudder*

I'm a **** good swimmer though probably because I am so scared!
    07-08-2010, 04:51 PM
We have mocassins here too, but like smrobs said, they like cover. Our pond is pretty clean. I was swimming before I was walking, my family was always big in watersports and I taught swim lessons and was a lifeguard as a teenager. I'm usually more comfortable in the water than I am on land :).

I've only done it with that one filly, and never actually heard of it being done before, but now that I think of it, it was pretty easy and I wouldn't hesitate to try it again in the future.
    07-08-2010, 05:04 PM
Green Broke
I usually try to ensure with youngsters that by the time I am getting on them, they are so comfortable with saddles, bridles, people etc that it is very unlikely that they will buck. Very few younsters that I have started have bucked when being ridden for the first time, they may take a few stiff strides as they get the feel of weight on their back, then relax and continue.

However.... On horses that do buck (usually ones that have learned bad habits) I have found it useful to mount in very deep mud. Just takes the edge off the buck and makes it so hard for them to buck they usually settle down and wade their way through the mud instead. We used to have a muddy yard used specifically for this purpose, it was about the size of a round yard and in winter was filled with sticky mud that most horses would sink into well above their fetlocks - very very difficult to jump around in sticky mud!
    07-08-2010, 05:09 PM
I always like to start my horse in a swimming pool filled with strawberry jello and I wear Tinkerbell wings on my back just in case too....Ha!

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