TWO HOURS - I don't think he has it in him to be active that long! ahahah He is overweight, and hasn't been worked in years and years...
I didn't mean chasing literally :P I am just so worried he won't show any of the signs (ear locked, lick/chew, head down..) because he's so full of himself. This is also why I want to do join-up, to teach him some basic respect for once! Do you think it's possible he won't give in, being so proud the way he is? I want a companion horse not a horse who thinks I'm nuts or a slave driver ahahaha.
ahaha i understand what you're thinking exactly. one of my mares is incredibly dominant so it takes her a bit longer to accept that she might not be top gun when i'm around. as long as you keep their feet moving when you aren't getting the response you want, they'll keep thinking. as soon as the signs are shown, just stop and do the join up. sometimes it happens after the signs show, and sometimes they show signs but no-can-do, they don't come around.
they need to understand that if they're complying with you, life is a lot easier. respect is such a big thing in the horse world, and i've learned that you really have to go in their commanding every ounce of it you can.
p.s. the only thing I've realized some of my horses do in the rectangular pen, is when they don't feel like cooperating they will stop in the corner and turn their hindquarters towards me. that is a BIG no no but i see it being easier in the rectangular. i usually just slap the ground by their feet to join up, but whenever they get to the corner and pull one of these stunts a little tap is necessarily.
i don't find joining up hard, but sometimes it can get so frustrating i feel like giving up. so what i would do is maybe have some else who is very familiar with the process to come in there and help in case your frustration kicks in, because with horses like what you mentioned, you sometimes do get pretty edgy ahahah