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    09-07-2013, 07:46 PM
  #11
Weanling
I tighten the cinch three times. After I saddle, just tight enough to keep the saddle on, and once before I get on and a third time I have someone check it when im on because I use one of those smushy pads so when I get on it mashes down quite a bit. And I agree with the girth, especially if itsa string girth
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    09-07-2013, 08:46 PM
  #12
Weanling
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^^Thenrie, that's certainly a different way of looking at the issue and it could very well be right. Normally, unless I'm fixing to rope something, I'll usually only cinch up 2 times, the first is relatively loose when I first put the saddle on, and then I'll pull it up snug-ish after leading them out to where I'm going to mount.


Though I have been guilty of just stepping on in the barn after only lightly tightening it that first time and, after riding for several hours working cattle or whatever, I get off to find the front cinch nearly as loose as the back...hanging an inch or more off their belly.

Not something I would advise anyone else to do, but I've been lucky and not had an accident yet.
That's about how I ride most of the time on the trail. I wouldn't advise roping like that, though. Still, a lot of folks cinch way past what is necessary. My own mother, being the worrier in the family (that's her job) nearly ruined a good horse like that. It started acting just the way the OP's horse is acting. Once my mother pretty much gave up riding, the horse became my trail horse. I ride with the cinch snug, but not tight. Took me many years to get the horse over the cinchiness. We had a few go-rounds while we worked at it.
     
    09-08-2013, 12:27 PM
  #13
Yearling
I have used clicker training on this issue and it has been very effective.

I got a mare 3 years ago that would rear up when you even brought a saddle near her. It was cinchy-gone-psycho! She progressively got better but each new step to improvement revealed her different strategies to keep from being girthed ( and hurt, in her experience).

I started with just clicking and treating for standing calmly while a helper approached with the saddle. At first it was for 1 second, then 3, 6, 10 etc until she was calm for approach. Then it was for allowing us to set the saddle in her back and keeping her head forward. Then it was for still, calm, head down and forward while I fiddled with saddle. Finally it was for still, calm, head down and forward while I actually tightened enough to walk around.

It actually didn't take as long as it sounds, and now she is awesome about saddling. She gets into her position and can be saddled while ground tied. I only occasionally CT for saddling, like one treat every 3rd time.
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    09-09-2013, 12:05 AM
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That's about how I ride most of the time on the trail. I wouldn't advise roping like that, though. Still, a lot of folks cinch way past what is necessary. My own mother, being the worrier in the family (that's her job) nearly ruined a good horse like that. It started acting just the way the OP's horse is acting. Once my mother pretty much gave up riding, the horse became my trail horse. I ride with the cinch snug, but not tight. Took me many years to get the horse over the cinchiness. We had a few go-rounds while we worked at it.

Hmm, just brought up another thought along the same lines as far as root cause. The main reason why saddles slip around on folks is because they don't fit. So, they may just think that the cinch is too loose and needs to be tighter when it's actually the saddle at fault. That could contribute to the cinchy issue as well because if they're screwing down a saddle that's already pinching, I'd get pissed in a hurry too.

Of course, horses who are mutton withered, the saddle will slide a bit when mounting just because there's no withers to keep it in place, but on a horse with decent withers and a saddle that fits, any decent horseman who's in decent shape should be able to get on without even having a cinch on the saddle.

Heck, any decent rider, regardless of their size, should be able to ride without a cinch on a horse with a well-fitting saddle. Except, of course, in high torque disciplines that require fast turns or hard stops. Average pleasure riding though? If the saddle's slipping around, then either the rider has the absolute worst balance in the world or the saddle doesn't even come close to fitting.
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