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post #1 of 6 Old 11-30-2008, 11:56 PM Thread Starter
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floating problems

of late ive been having trouble getting my mare on the float to come home. leaving home she goes straight on first time. almost puts herself on.

it all started about 4 outings ago. it took 1 1/2 hours to get her on the float. the next time, 1 hour. the next 45 minutes and then yesterday another hour.

i dont understand her problem. she has floated tonnes of times and i would think that if she was scared she wouldnt go on at home either.

when she wont go on i stay calm (one of my virtues) and just keep persisting. i wont use a bum rope or anything else to force her on. if anything i will kinda swing the rope a little to get her moving forward but then she goes sideways so i dont do that much at all.

she will put her front feet on and at the point i just stop and let her settle there so she can see nothing is going to eat her and then i ask her to move forward again. she will take two steps up and then nick off backwards or sideways. whichever she feels like.

im pretty passive so its always pretty calm but i just cant get her to go on without a hassle. once we got home yesterday i tried to get her to go on and off a couple of times but she wouldnt do it again. even though i didnt want to i stopped without her getting on as she was getting too stressed and worked up.

has anyone else had this problem? or even any ideas on why she might be doing it would help to.

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post #2 of 6 Old 12-01-2008, 02:20 AM
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You have to keep a good horse good. She's not scared and she's learning to cheat you. She was probably what I call "Born Broke" during training. Born brokes are very good natured and typically dreams to train, but they don't make enough mistakes during lessons to really learn them. They go along without a hitch until one day something happens and they realize that they don't have to go along with the program. In short, she knows how to load, but doesn't know that she HAS to load. Make sense?
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post #3 of 6 Old 12-01-2008, 08:07 AM
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Interesting opinion, in other words, a late bloomer - but in a negative way. So what you are saying is that there is a hole in her training that was probably always there but she just discovered it?

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post #4 of 6 Old 12-01-2008, 08:28 AM Thread Starter
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thanks horsepoor. interesting insight. but what should i do now? she is such a perfect angel and this has all thrown me for a loop as training has NEVER been an issue for her. shes just so...submissive i suppose is the word for it. and passive!!

where do i go from now then? my perfect little angel has a problem for this first time lol in the time i have had her i have never once had a problem with her. she has ALWAYS been just...perfect at everything. a dream horse in soooo many ways other than the fact that she hates anyone other than me and my hubby and she hates all horses other than our other horses lol shes a cow but shes my cow lol

anyway, i digress, what can i do to get her through this? i was thinking about leaving our float out there and putting some hay in there. knowing my girl she will just have to go in there and get it. but thats my passive way which i think may be whats made her what she is. maybe i need to get a little more...resourceful???

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You could try leaving the float out there for her with some hay in it but that doesn't always work. I just wanted to make sure you brace the back of the trailer. If you don't have it hooked up to a vehicle the back end will drop with her weight and probably scare the crap out of her if not injure her.
You might also try making a couple of very short trips with her. Take her out in the float for a few miles then take her back home and let her out. Let her know that every trip isn't a major one.
I think people forget to train the horse to "travel" in the trailer. They are so concerned with the loading and unloading, its easy to forget the most traumatic part for the horse is the trip itself.

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post #6 of 6 Old 12-01-2008, 09:31 PM
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My horse is like this, it's horrible isn't it. We've had to camp at the showgrounds overnight before because we just couldn't get her on.

She's also not scared, just really stubborn. I stay calm and everything but she remains as calm as me and just falls asleep half way on but refuses to continue, then she swings her quarters out and makes it impossible for herself to get on.
When she swings her quartersnow i just belt her with the whip to bring her quarters back around, ask her on again and she goes striaght on all the way in, because she knows I'm not going to put up with her crap any more.

At my last comp straight after my ride once she was hosed down, i packed the car and loaded her straight up so she didn't have time to relax and get comfortable, and she walked straight in.

Do heaps of practise at home, even if she goes on perfectly, do it anyway..take her for a short drive around the block then back home, unload her, then load her up again. Just keep practising, I'm sure she'll get it eventually
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