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Friendship Training ?????

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#1 ·
I read this on another site.

Honestly I find it ....ummmm dribble. From what I gather you simply let the horse do whatever it wishes and if it wants to wander off to eat grass you just let it, as it is your "friend".

Friendship Training, The Natural Horse.org
 
#2 ·
Oooh, to whom do I send the check?! Should I make it out to Faux Guru of the Moment? :rofl:

Yeah, I'm a horrible, evil, abusive horse owner, since I expect my animals to work when I say they work, nail evil metal shoes on their precious toesies, and -gasp!- actually use tack WITH a bridle and bit! :shock:

I know, I know, I should haz a shame. :wink:
 
#12 ·
Well, I guess I need to carry my laptop out to the barn and show Scout that he really ought to be terribly resentful of me riding him, with saddle, bridle, bit, and occasionally spurs no less. He must really be confused, to come galloping up to meet me when he sees me coming with the saddle. :lol:

Honestly, the amount of ignorance, false logic, and misinformation in the dressage critique alone is astounding. That being said, thanks for the link, Spyder! I haven't had this good of a laugh in a while! :D
 
#15 ·
Hey, suits me fine. More business for me and other folks like me LOL.

I bet Pokey would love this. His mentality toward humans is "Feed me and then leave me the hell alone :evil:. Don't touch me, don't pet me, don't even look at me because I don't like you and I want you to go away."

:rofl::rofl:
The horse incidentally learns all his basic ground and riding cue/responses he will need before he ever experiences haltering or the oppositional pressure of restriction.
And to think, I've spent the last 20 years or so learning how to teach horses to give to pressure so that they can be ridden effectively when all I needed to do was sit indian style in the middle of his pasture and send happy thoughts his way:oops:.

When will people figure out that horses don't need friends. They are herd animals and they need an alpha. If you don't fill those shoes, they will.
 
#16 ·
Oh my, I almost snorted my brains out of my nose when reading the dressage section. Gees, I never realised that I only ride dressage for fame, money and an easy ride. Yep, spot on there, clearly I'm rich and famous, and all I do is sit there and do nothing, while leaning on a curb and cruel 'chin chain' with my toes stuck out and spurs stuck in :)
Apparently we are making 'try-hard' war horses too... wow, now where's my amour??
 
#18 ·
The first is simply determining the type of relationship you want to share with your horse. If it is one of simply controlling and training a large animal, then one or another of the traditional training formats should suffice to one degree or another. But if you were looking for different, something above and beyond that normal, dictatorial type of relationship, then it would be essential to seek alternate methods of interaction.
What other type of relationship would you want with a horse? I thought the reason we own horses is to do exactly this-control and train a large animal.

My horses are happy, relaxed, submissive and obedient BECAUSE I am a dictator. I am not a friend to any of them-I am someone they trust, respect, and want to follow.

If I want a friend, I call one of my buddies and go out and do something. I don't need a large, dumb animal to be my BFF.
 
#19 · (Edited)
Here is the original link/organization..


Friendship Training

Ummm Part 1





Ummm ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE







In all of our Friendship Training exercises, three guidelines are strictly adhered to:

I. Freedom of Choice (We ask, instead of ordering.)

II. Freedom of Movement (No restriction of any kind is used for teaching/training.)

III. Freedom of Expression (The horse is always encouraged to express their feelings as long as it does not in any way injure their human teacher.

MORE ummmmmm...................
 
#45 ·
Here is the original link/organization..


Friendship Training
Oh, c'mon, Spyder! Hugs and kisses is all we need to train horses! Although I have to say my qh doesn't like kisses much for some reason. I guess, she's not a "perfect" horse. Or may be I (a cruel human) destroyed her ability to be a perfect one. :oops:
 
#21 ·
Doesn't number 3 contradict the other two in the guidelines?

You let the horse do what they want with no restraint, but no injuries?

Good luck with that.
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#22 ·
Omg, the dressage section is hilarious! :lol:

The major points of abuse in so-called dressage are:
The use of unsuitable horses for dressage/riding e.g. coldblooded horses or too heavy and/or too tall warmbloods.
I guess no one told my trainer that her successful Grand Prix Percheron stallion was unsuitable for dressage!
 
#24 ·
I can't..... I just can't read it.

Based on not reading it, and just basing my opinions on the comments here, do they suggest that we just let our horse misbehave for the farrier if they feel like it, because sooner or later, they will stand still?

Wait, don't answer that, I don't want to know.

Sounds like more horses going to slaughter because they can't be handled to me.
 
#28 ·
Hey, it's like Facebook for horses! You sit in the arena waiting for the horse to "Friend" you and you don't do anything that would cause the horse to "unfriend" you. In the meantime, the horse writes whatever he wants on your wall, but that's okay because he's learning, learning....

So, just as Facebook is successful in teaching people how to have REAL relationships with REAL people, this training method will teach horses what we want them to learn, too! I get it, I get it!
 
#41 ·
Agreed. I'll take some of what Grandpa Chuck's having and a tab or two of what Natural Horse got.....:lol:

I could only read little bits here and there. Looking at Natural Horse I was kind of scared that maybe they're using some sort of hypnotization or something...and I want to live. With my mare you'd not last two seconds following this kind of crap.
 
#33 ·
Wait...

Surely Lacyloo's videos can be seen on Youtube, right? Or at least portions of them? Well, then, I can just watch them and figure the rest out for myself. I don't need to pay the money to find out what the ultimate goal (final word) is. After all, I loveeee my horseeey, and that's all I really need, right?

Well, that and a whole bunch of sugar cubes...

:rofl:
 
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