Before I go on to argue my point, I just have to say this. Everyone needs to stop with the finger pointing and whining. This thread is nothing personal. It's about having a great, logical, debate about the logistics of getting an immediate response from your horse. There have been lots of interesting and good points thrown out by both sides. So please, let's leave the bickering behind us. Thanks!
On to my point now. Lol I believe one of the major questions that has come up is the why Cherie's tip is effective and why is it only for finished horses. I am not Cherie, but this is my take on it. A finished horse knows what is expected of it. It is not learning anything new like a green horse. A finished horse wouldn't become frantic or panicked because it doesn't understand a perfectly made request. A young horse will do those things. If you ask a finished horse to immediately step into the canter (assuming the horse was perfectly cued) and fails to do so (assuming there is no rider error), the rider would then immediately stop the horse. The rider would then get after the horse, not allowing him to step forward. You then start again, as soon as the horse has settled from reacting to being gotten after, by cueing the horse correctly. The horse will then move off of your leg, immediately, as requested. All of this happens within about 10 to 15 seconds of the horse failing to respond to the cue. The reason you do not let the horse go forward is because the horse will then be moving off of the whip/spurs, rather than the suble cue from your calf. The idea is that the horse correlates the touch of your calf to an immediate transition, rather than being whipped/spurred. You would not do this with a young horse that is learning because they have no clear expectation of what they were supposed to do in the first place. You would only put the youngster into a state of panic, confusion, or they would have a horsey meltdown.
Also, as stated earlier in this thread, all finished horses become finished by learning their actions have consequences. I think we can all agree to this. How does a foal learn to not walk all over it's handler? How does a young horse learn biting his handler is unacceptable? Not by being coddled, that's for sure. And how does that baby horse then become a finished reining horse one day? No horse becomes finished without learning that there are consequences to their actions.
Strength is not defined by physical ability. It is determined by your actions and the compassion of your soul.
Last edited by Bagheera; 09-01-2013 at 06:28 PM.