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post #211 of 214 Old 09-04-2013, 11:06 PM
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Okay, I have spent more time than I care to admit reading this thread and have only gotten to page 12, so I'm jumping to the last page now. Hopefully I didn't miss anything (judging from all the previous comments I'm guessing not, since this discussion has shown to be essentially circular).

When I first read what Cherrie originally said, my immediate thought was that my horse would launch himself into a bucking fit if I did that. But then the more I thought about it, I DO do that. It's as simple as this example:

I ask my horse for the left lead canter. He responds by not cantering correctly (the canter depart is included in the correctly part). I bring him back to a walk and give him one good whack with my dressage whip (disclaimer: more horse has never had welts, lacerations, etc from me "beating" him). The whack is to say HELLO, did you hear me?! Its almost like a wake up call to get their full, undivided attention. However, I am not giving him the cue to canter during this whack (I don't know if I differ in what others do in this regard), it is simply a whack. Hello, wake up, pay attention. I then ask for the canter depart and he ALWAYS gives it (or whatever other transition I'm asking for) immediately. I just have to shift my weight to the outside and we are cantering.

To summarize:
I ask for canter. Correct canter not given. Stop asking and give wake up call to horse. Ask again. Correct canter given. Praise - good boy!

Maybe I am entirely missing the point and "not getting it", but this is what I do and it works for my horse as well as other horses I have ridden. And isn't that the bottom line, essentially? Does it work for you or doesn't it?

Hope this helps somewhat!
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post #212 of 214 Old 09-05-2013, 06:17 AM
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Showjumperachel, I can summarize it for you:

To paraphrase Arthur Schopenhauer...
"people argue for victory more than for truth"

We grow too soon old, and too late smart.
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post #213 of 214 Old 09-05-2013, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by DimSum View Post
people argue for victory more than for truth
seeing as though i didn't present much of an alternative, what was i ever going to "win" with?
whether my question is answered or not, there was never to be any "victory" in it for me. the only point was to seek an answer to a question. though it's become pretty obvious that nobody knows precisely why the method works - only that it does work. which is great. i'm happy to leave the thread at that but please don't assume that i'm arguing for victory more than for truth.
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