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post #1 of 10 Old 10-09-2008, 10:17 PM Thread Starter
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Gelding get's a little too excited to canter

So today I was riding my brat and we were riding out in the pasture (basically the only open place to ride for now) and as soon as I went to move him into a canter he did something weird, I'm not sure if it was a buck or kick or what but he does it in the arena and makes me nervous to canter him. I've tried lungeing him before I ride to get out that energy but it does no good. I've asked while circling etc. And if I do get him into a canter, he is basically uncontrollable. He won't go where I steer him. I feel like if I ask him for a canter, he's going to take off on me or buck or something. (ps. tack fits fine, sound horse, I think he's just a brat)

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I've ridden a lot of horses that get extremely excited into the canter. Its basically going to be difficult because its all part of his training. When you get ready to ask him to canter, relax a great deal, fake it if you must, deeeeep breaths, because the calmer you are on him, the calmer it should help him feel. Then just before you ask him to canter fall this......half halt, canter aids, half halt. This way before you even canter you are asking him for your attention. Then youll begin to canter but youre again asking him for your attention. Work on transitions witht this. Canter for a few circles and then break back to a controlled trot and repeat. eventually he should understand that theres not a need for so much extra excitement in the canter and he should pat attention. This isnt a quick fix at all, but youll have to rid it out, once he starts getting excited, move him in smalllll circles and calm him and break him to that trot and try again. You really want to practice the transitions for him.

I know this helps out in the long run for you. IDK how quickly itll help though, but i wish you so much luck with him
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Few questions to ask then i might be able to help.......

What breed is your horse?
From what i understand STB and other trotters can have a difficult time cantering, or getting into a canter.

When you lunge him does he canter fine?
And when your riding does he trot and walk for you like a good boy?
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I have an STB and despite that he cant canter well, he's still learning, he doesnt get excited or buck going into it. The method i use now is the one i explained above and it actually seems to help him stay focused on me when he's trying to learn.

Isnt ur hrose a thouroughbred or something like that I thought i read that in another post of yours?

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Kiwi is a 4 year old Quarter Horse. He's a bit of a brat at the trot too, a little hard to steer, but getting better. And when I canter him in the round pen, he's just fine, looks great in the roundpen.

"As we get older it gets more and more difficult to just believe. It's not that we don't want to; it's just that so much has happened that we can't."
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My trainer and I worked on my husbands horse this summer for this exact same problem.

First we made sure he was working at the trot with an even candance. As equine said, deep breath, half halt and then the canter cue. Canter a few strides and then back into a slow collected trot. Keep your cue as light as you can. I"ll bet your holding your breath and he's sensing it.

Another thing to look at, since he's only 4 he may not of developed a sense of self carriage yet and feels off balance. Rushing is a common thing for them to do when things don't feel right.

If you don't have a ring to ride in where you can keep him in one end so he can't build up ahead of steam then I would continue to just trot in an open field. An open field at this point is just too exciting for him. You say he's hard to steer at the trot, I think your getting ahead of yourself. Your asking for something he may not be ready for yet.
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Well, he used to canter fine but I went a few months without riding him much at all.

Thanks, I'll try it out.

"As we get older it gets more and more difficult to just believe. It's not that we don't want to; it's just that so much has happened that we can't."
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So today I was riding my brat and we were riding out in the pasture (basically the only open place to ride for now) and as soon as I went to move him into a canter he did something weird, I'm not sure if it was a buck or kick or what but he does it in the arena and makes me nervous to canter him. I've tried lungeing him before I ride to get out that energy but it does no good. I've asked while circling etc. And if I do get him into a canter, he is basically uncontrollable. He won't go where I steer him. I feel like if I ask him for a canter, he's going to take off on me or buck or something. (ps. tack fits fine, sound horse, I think he's just a brat)
groundwork groundwork groundwork.
Lunging a horse that is "crazy" or is known to not listen probably isn't the best thing (I'm saying this cause this is not the type of groundwork I mean) since it normally gets them more worked up and "crazier" so to speak.

I'd do ALOT of respect stuff...teach him not to approach you unless you ask him to, teach him to listen to voice commands, etc. Only then will he truely respect you when you ride.

Are you over using your legs? Making him hard-sided?
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Well, when I'm working with him in the round pen, I've been teaching him voice commands which I've already seen a huge improvement on because that day I was riding him, I'd cluck and not use my legs at all and he moved into a decent trot. He's very smart, fast learner. I've been working with him a lot on the ground, bonding with him and stuff now that I've moved him to a much closer stable thats like 2 minutes from my house =]

He's definately very touchy with his sides, I barely nudge him with my heels and he's off lol.

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He's definately very touchy with his sides, I barely nudge him with my heels and he's off lol.
Try just using your calf. This way your heels will be down and you'll be more centred in the saddle.

Could you post a video? I'm sure we could give you better suggestions.

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