This was about a German Martingale, not about training my horse. Thanks for 'reading' what this was about. I was asking about a martingale, NOT MY HORSE.
Seriously? That's the most ridiculous thing to say.
What are you going to be using the GM for? Training.
Are you going to be strapping the GM to yourself? No, the horse
How can you possibly ask a question about a GM without also addressing training and the horse? They go together.
I said if it would help when he is put on pattern?
And again, as I stated before, he shouldn't have these problems when you finally do put him on the pattern, so why would you need a GM for the pattern?
In the round pen he doesn't have a bit in his mouth, his main issue is when pulled on the bit it's like he loses all track of thought. The only thing he has a mega problem with is flexing his neck.
Hence why a GM is not going to help you because you definitely have a training problem with your horse at this point. First you say he can't back up. Oh wait, a day later he can. You also said he can't round his back and can't use his hindend. But what? Now his only
problem is he can't flex at the neck??? You keep changing your story as we go along. You need to get him softer with the bit from the ground and in the saddle, and softer / more responsive with his body from the ground and in the saddle. (And you also need to have his teeth checked if you haven't already done so.) A GM isn't going to solve all those problems you are having because a GM only addresses the head; you have problems with his whole body. Good slow training is what will fix the body, and thus will naturally fix the head and neck. And I won't offer any tips on how to do that since you seem to know-it-all anyway, and the rest of us are all mean assumptious bullies, despite the fact that you were the only one to spout out rude little comments throughout the thread.
I'm done trying to be helpful too because it doesn't work to talk to someone with a closed mind who has nothing to learn, and thinks that the tack we put on our horses has nothing to do with how we use that tack for training.
If you don't want any help, then don't post a question. Go ask your "trainer" instead.