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    09-14-2009, 02:58 PM
  #1
Foal
Talking Get your horse to ground tie!

I am trying to teach my horse to ground tie.

He's a 6 year old TB Gelding with a slight case of ADD but generally pretty thoughtful. Any suggestions beyond yanking the lead line and demanding he "Stand!"

Methods? Treats? Jedi mind tricks? We're open to ideas!
     
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    09-14-2009, 03:26 PM
  #2
Yearling
I've always thought Jedi mind tricks were the best way LMAO!

No seriously, I have no clue how to teach a horse to ground tie but I too would like to learn!!
     
    09-14-2009, 03:34 PM
  #3
Yearling
Jedi mind tricks........LOL

All of mine ground tie, one I can leave, go into the house to go to the bathroom and when I come out he's in the same spot.... the other's aren't quite as good. I can make it to the barn......maybe.....

I've done it a few ways but with the last one I got him to back up to the end of the lead rope by wiggling it, increasing the pressure if needed and then just leave him alone in his "spot". Then "reel" him back to me and then back out. Once he had that, when he was in his spot at the end of the line I just dropped the line and walked away. Not far at first, then started to circle him. If at any time he moved I would pick up the line and wiggle him back into his spot.

Maybe it was just the horse, but this worked quite quickly.

With the others I did it the usual way. You plant them in a spot, drop the rope and either say whoa or stand, then gradually start to walk around them or away from them. If they move you put them back in the same spot and try again.

I will be doing the first way from now on it just worked so much quicker.
     
    09-14-2009, 03:52 PM
  #4
Foal
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Originally Posted by G and K's Mom    
Jedi mind tricks........LOL

All of mine ground tie, one I can leave, go into the house to go to the bathroom and when I come out he's in the same spot.... the other's aren't quite as good. I can make it to the barn......maybe.....

I've done it a few ways but with the last one I got him to back up to the end of the lead rope by wiggling it, increasing the pressure if needed and then just leave him alone in his "spot". Then "reel" him back to me and then back out. Once he had that, when he was in his spot at the end of the line I just dropped the line and walked away. Not far at first, then started to circle him. If at any time he moved I would pick up the line and wiggle him back into his spot.

Maybe it was just the horse, but this worked quite quickly.

With the others I did it the usual way. You plant them in a spot, drop the rope and either say whoa or stand, then gradually start to walk around them or away from them. If they move you put them back in the same spot and try again.

I will be doing the first way from now on it just worked so much quicker.
Wow, that's a smart horse!! There is a woman at my barn who can get off her horse in the middle of a ride, go to her car and get something she forgot (phone, gloves, whatever) and come back to her horse still standing exactly where she left him! Its amazing!

So, by wiggle, do you mean just kind shake the end of the lead until he backs the full length of the rope away from you then ask him to walk forward back to you?

I'll have to try that.
     
    09-14-2009, 04:07 PM
  #5
Yearling
Yes, you just shake the lead rope. At first he's not going to like it and you may have to get a little strong with the wiggle. As soon as he even moves his feet back the slightest bit, stop! Then resume the wiggle, start off light and increase as needed.

This is Kooter, I'm at the far side of the arena. This was with about 12 other horse's working around him. He's the one I can leave for extended periods. I should add, I've found a rope halter works best!

     
    09-15-2009, 10:37 PM
  #6
Yearling
The force is strong with this one ^^

My trainer's son (who trains the horses :P ) will do ANYTHING to keep the horse from moving. I guess he teaches the horse the word "whoa" till its drilled inside their head then does what Jedi Master G and K's Mom does. I know one time, his horse Andy was standing in the crossties untied and he tried to move and Trey (trainer) threw a brush at him... he never moves now. O_o

I also learned to fake some horses out: I'll pretend to hook on the crossties and theyll stand there untied for a long time. Eventually, even if they know they're untied they wont move. That's not a conventional way, but its worked often for me ;). I can leave Pate (weshie) wherever her is, lead horses by him, muck stalls, do whatever and he wont move.
     
    09-16-2009, 12:17 AM
  #7
Yearling
Well, I started off with an extremely unmotivated-to-move horse who I could just drop the line and his thought process would be something like "Oh, you don't want me to follow anymore? OK, fine by me. I'll just sorta chill here." (2-Pak will practically fall asleep on the spot the second you drop the lead. He's such a dork...)
But that's probably not helpful... XP
I taught Magic to ground tie pretty much the same way as G and K's mom... but when it came to wandering further away (i.e. Out of her sight), she'd get to wandering. So I decided to get sneaky (since she's not particularly spooky)... I'd wander around her, in her sight, until I decided she'd stay still, then I stepped around the other side of a handily-placed truck or trailer, then just kinda peek out from behind it. When she started to wander, I'd pitch a small rock at her sides, and she'd sort of jump, but wouldn't go anywhere.
Now, the only questionable part of her ground tying is how if I drop her in a patch of grass, there will be a perfect crop circle around where I left her, because she'll stand there and pivot in place. XD I found her once standing in her crop circle and stretching her neck out all the way to the grass at the edges, but she wouldn't step forward. XD
Bandit won't ground tie, but if I ask him to lay down and then leave him like that, he won't get up until I ask him... at one time, he even refused to get up when my young cousin drove a 4-wheeler towards and around him several times.
Dante, I wouldn't trust him to ever be one of those horses that you could drop and leave for long periods of time. He's just too... ADD inclined.
     
    09-16-2009, 02:14 AM
  #8
Foal
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Originally Posted by LoveTheSaddlebreds    
I also learned to fake some horses out: I'll pretend to hook on the crossties and theyll stand there untied for a long time. Eventually, even if they know they're untied they wont move. That's not a conventional way, but its worked often for me ;). I can leave Pate (weshie) wherever her is, lead horses by him, muck stalls, do whatever and he wont move.
Interesting you say this, I actually had this funny idea of treating the cross ties like training wheels on a bike. You don't just take them both off right away, start with one! I thought maybe I could put on the cross ties and then take off one and working on keeping him in his spot. Then removed the second one once he's settled into the idea.

I will have to try that!!!
     
    09-16-2009, 09:19 AM
  #9
Banned
My longest ground tie was 1 hour 15 minutes and he never moved while I assisted a vet with a horse. I teach hobbling first, I hobble daily for brushing, saddling, picking feet. I also ground tie daily at the back of my truck when returning from a ride to unsaddle and store my gear. I just slip a neck rope around his neck, drop the line and proceed to unsaddle. If he moves I yell at him to stand and put him right back in the spot I left him.
When grooming I take him out of the stall with a neck rope, slip his hobbles on and remove the neck rope. They quickly learn to stand free where you put them.
     
    09-16-2009, 05:40 PM
  #10
Yearling
Quote:
Originally Posted by HeartMyOTTB    
Interesting you say this, I actually had this funny idea of treating the cross ties like training wheels on a bike. You don't just take them both off right away, start with one! I thought maybe I could put on the cross ties and then take off one and working on keeping him in his spot. Then removed the second one once he's settled into the idea.

I will have to try that!!!
it DOES work!! XP my trainer would laugh when I told her I was teaching Leia to ground tie when I'd unhook the crossties, but now leia ground ties! Who's laughing now??? Lols
     

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