Getting an actual STOP. Lol..

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        10-04-2010, 10:43 PM
    Getting an actual STOP. Lol..

    Okay, so I rode Vinnie today for the first time. He did AMAZING! He was nice and calm, and he picked up an ultra-slow western trot that was just awesome. He was soft and bending good and moving off my legs like a dream. He even side passed for me! :)

    But, our problem is stopping. I can get him to stop, but only for a second. He'll start to walk forward, back, or kinda jigg to the side. I just tell him WHOA again, and relax when he stops. Any ideas? Or will this just come with time/more work?
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        10-05-2010, 12:08 AM
    Once you stop how long do you stand still??
        10-05-2010, 12:57 AM
    I like to work a young horse pretty hard before I ask for the stop. Then, if they want to fidget around and move, then they get to spin in little tiny circles for a couple of minutes and then let them relax by standing still. I give them a few seconds of standing still and then ask for them to move off. If they move before I ask, then they get to spin in little circles again the other direction. When they will stand still for even a few seconds after I stop them, then I will make sure to ask them to move off before they start getting squirmy. I just extend the time spent standing still by a little bit every time.
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        10-05-2010, 01:02 AM
    In my mind, there are two ways around it.

    Idea 1. Make him want to stop. Work and work and work and work. No peace, no rest. Keep him moving, really moving, for a solid 30 minutes. Throw the whole kitchen sink at him. About 15 minutes in, he is going to be begging to stop. Don't let him. Move move move! When he finally stops, drop your reins and let him catch his breath. The second he steps off, side steps, gets ants in the work work! He needs to know that stopping means is what he should want!

    Idea 2. A whole day of rest. In conjunction with smrobs idea, get on him and ask him to stand. Dancing, sidestepping, moving without circle circle! Then stand. Some horses need to get used to the idea that we like to rest. When he stands quite for a minute or so, start praising him. Its good to rest!
        10-05-2010, 01:33 AM
    Another option to the ones above..One rein stop every time they move. Alternate bending of course.. but a horse should know the difference between halting and adjusting your stirrup and leg pressure to walk off.

    Also, when you mount he needs to stand there for a while. If you start your ride off with him walking off as he pleases, that is the example he/she will follow. Can you tell this is a big pet peeve of mine?
        10-05-2010, 01:58 AM
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    Random question: What kind of bit are you using on him? I've encountered similar behavior from horses that are being ridden in bits that they don't feel comfortable in/are too harsh...
    Just another thought. :)
        10-05-2010, 02:03 AM
    When you do get the hajust is it more than just the feet stop moving? I still have to think of my halt as an "almost back." I want my horse to keep her feet still, rock her weight to her hind end and relax to any contact/pressure.
    Making the halt an appealing idea when compared to work is a great way to get the halt to begin with, but holding it until you say otherwise is a different story (depending on your horse). Personally, I tire out long before my TB cross. Sure I could stand to be in better shape, but nobody's ever going to bet money on me at the track like they did on her. I found halting, backing one step, then dropping the reins and keeping a very still seat helped me. Also after halting and rocking weight on the hind end, throw in a turn on the haunches here and there. If your horse thinks something else may be coming, he may be more willing to wait prepared for your next request.
        10-05-2010, 11:01 PM
    He was just in a snaffle, now he's in a springsteen because I love that bit and he want to say out of his mouth/keep him soft as much as possible. A springsteen is not a harsh bit (well, used by me anyway lol). It's like a snaffle but with an extra peice that puts pressure behind the jaw when you pull a rein.

    He did a bit better today, I was able to get him to stand longer. When I stop him, I stand long enough to pat him on the neck and tell him good job, and sometimes I wait for him to start chewing on the bit or relaxing. Right now he's pretty nervous in the arena, so I didn't feel like he was ready for canter work, but we did do quite a bit of trotting, walking, bending, circles, and even some work on getting him to yeild his shoulders.

    I plan on refining my stop by backing a few steps once I get the actual stop down, because right now I want an actual STOP, not a back lol. Sometimes he will just keep backing, so I end up having to bumb him with my legs, and I don't want that to be a habit ;)
        10-05-2010, 11:17 PM
    When I ask my horse to stop I want them thinking back. I want them to back until I stop giving the cue. Then I like them stand for a good 2 min. And let them relaxes. I find that people do not let a horse stand long enough. I want the horse to want to stop. I want them to stand and relax. When I am working on stopping with a young horse I will spend more time just standing them I do anything else. I have never had a horse who did not hunt the stop.
        10-05-2010, 11:21 PM
    Awesome, thank you! I'm sure he'll come around with time/work/confidence.

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