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post #1 of 24 Old 03-26-2010, 08:13 PM Thread Starter
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Getting The Correct Lead?

hello everyone,
I was riding Pumkin the other day and I noticed that he only picks up the left canter leadno matter what rein we are on. Any suggestions on how to teach him to canter on the right lead?
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post #2 of 24 Old 03-26-2010, 09:34 PM
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Teach side passing. It is not difficult to teach and once the horse knows side passing leads are alot easier.
Using side passing if I want the horse to say take it's left lead you just push the hind end to the left with your right leg and pull the front end to the right using the right rein and encourage the lope and the horse will move out on the left lead.
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ok will defianatley try that, thanks

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You can do it the way RiosDad is suggesting by displacing the haunches and forequarters, however, this creates a crooked horse and your horse is already very likely crooked, and that's why she won't take the right lead.

The horse knows it's leads, and unless there is a physical problem that does not allow for the horse to move its legs in that particular sequence, then your issue is crookedness, and also very likely partly rider error.

The timing of the aids is also important. Since it's the outside hind that starts the lead, you must time the aids such that the horse can respond with that outside hind.

If the horse is heavy on its forehand, they will often try and take the lead with the inside fore and this will cause cross cantering or a wrong lead all together.

It also tends to be easier for some horses to get the leads out of walk because of the more comparable walk sequence, vs the trot sequence.
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Terrific advice!!!

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post #6 of 24 Old 03-27-2010, 12:15 AM
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I had the same prob. When my girl picked up the wrong lead I stop her immediatly and back her up 4 or 5 steps, the use my lead and ask her again and repeat until she picked the correct one up and once she picked up the right one I let her got around once and stop her and give her a good pat and let her stand there and let her think about what she has done :) hope this helps

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oh, and pull your horses head slightly to the outside of the areana so it's weight will be on the outside legs and it makes them more willing to pick up the inside lead

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oh, and pull your horses head slightly to the outside of the areana so it's weight will be on the outside legs and it makes them more willing to pick up the inside lead
That's not how it works, and as I said earlier, that creates a crooked horse. And while some crooked horses will manage to brace and contort themselves AND get the lead, that's not 'good' training or riding, and that crookedness will eventually catch up to the horse as training progresses...or doesn't progress as it were.

If the horse is straight, the rider sits as they should, times their aids as they should, the horse will never fail to get the lead. It's really just that simple.
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I didnt mean as ALL the time, but to get the horse to pick up the correct lead and understand the concept, I would only use this if all else fails

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Jalah, I found I use to have this problem with Chinga, I think it might of been the same lead to. But that’s a whole different story, so I was in a lesson with Aamelia one day and he could not pick up the right canter lead at all! So she got me thinking, how do I ask for my canter aid? A lot of people try squeeze then kick, but this is good. BUT, there is still no actual "aid" involved. The aid to canter is outside leg behind the girth, BE EXTRA OBVIOUS! I'm linking a video of part of the lesson with Aamelia, it sure didn't look pretty AND if I had a more stable leg on him it would have been heaps easier, but it was an older lesson and I looked yuck, but let’s not go there. Aamelia explains some really good steps to take and she’s clear in what she says and doesn't add in all these confusing terms. I’m not sure if I included it in the video but for the first two times he messed up straight away he was checked back into a steady trot, whether it took 1 or 5 circles to get a nice, steady, controlled trot it didn't matter. Then I would ask for a canter again. For those who didn't noticed Aamelia asked me to make the aids more obvious each time and once my wonderful boy did pick up the correct canter aid I would really push him into the canter and get him to do a few "laps" of the canter. Still keeping him steady, I really do feel the need to stress the word steady. Without a steady trot, I believe and understand that you cannot achieve a correct canter (aka correct lead). As I've said to you before, Pumpkin likes to rush into the next gait, mainly the canter and your feet start to slip and your leg gets unstable and then “bam” Pumpkin throws himself into a really awkward transition because he knows what you’re asking him to do (and that is canter) and he’s doing what he’s told, but the transitions so awkward that he goes onto the wrong lead. I dunno, that is just what I saw last time we rode but I’ll give you a hand on Sunday and Monday for our horsie camp out: D



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