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post #1 of 7 Old 06-25-2012, 10:39 AM Thread Starter
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getting a little frustrated

I have contacted a girl that is supposed to help me with my horse because he needs training everyday and I don't always have everyday. Anyhow, my latest obstacle is his head. I used the Clinton Anderson method on the headshy horse so that I could touch his face anywhere. Now, as long as its my hands I can touch his face and even between his ears, his ears were the worst the first week I got him. That problem was solved rather quickly. Well when I show him the bridle of course he gets all huffy and puffy, then as he is standing still I try to put it on his nose atleast to get started. He let me do that ok, but any other movements with it and he goes balistic! Raises his head even when I have pressure on his poll and backs himself up into a frenzy. I have tried using a lead rope and tying a knot so it was like reins, I worked on that one day and eventually he let me slide it on after an hour or so. Anyhow, why was it so easy to get him use to my hands/lead rope and not the bridle? I've taken the bit off to get past this problem first, the bit I can worry about after he stops throwing his head like an idiot! Also I don't like it because it's dangerous. He knows better than to knock me around though, he doesn't invade my space like that. He likes to turn and face me though also. What can I do?

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post #2 of 7 Old 06-26-2012, 02:56 AM
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Okay I am going to hire a Chinese person to take a weird contraption and try to put it on you.

Now you don't understand him, you don't know what the thing is.. how would you feel?

If it were me, I'd feel like if he tried to touch me, I'd kick his butt and not let that happen and evade him if possible. He'd try to tell me stuff but since I don't speak Chinese, we can't communicate.

Now I said all of that to have you think about what you're asking a horse to do.
This horse does not speak our language, he isn't sure about this equiptment, and you've taught him your hands are fine.

Just keep on slowly desensitizing him, and eventually he'll be fine. You aren't thinking reasonably if you expect him to stand there and think "oh that person's hands were okay, so I bet this weird thing is okay too" not likely, especially since your hands don't go in his mouth like the bit does, or have intricate buckles.

Just keep on working with him, and you'll be fine :)
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post #3 of 7 Old 06-26-2012, 07:44 AM Thread Starter
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I totally agree and after thinking it over I really need to do the same thing with the bridle that I did with my hands. I think I was worried about babying him too much after some peoples comments on my other post, but honestly I know my horse and its exactly like you said. After I introduce things to him, it only takes him a couple good times, a little smarty really. Thanks for the funny Its true though

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You're welcome :)

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post #5 of 7 Old 06-26-2012, 07:57 AM
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Horses are silly creatures. You desensitized him to your hands on his head and so he was okay with it after time. The key is that you desensitized him to your hands on his head - you didn't desensitize his head to being touched by anything and everything. Totally not a fault on your end! Horses are silly, like I said. Adding the bridle to the touching changed the rules and this the game has to start anew. Just remember that when you're desensitizing sometimes you're just going to get results with that one object on that one body part. The good news is that he sounds like he's able to learn quickly and seems to trust you in some way seeing as how he's open to your interactions. Just keep trying, praise for small progress, and be patient.
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I am assuming the halter over his ears causes the same issues as the bridle over his ears. Best thing is to work with a halter - put horses nose in cavestan then as you go to sip it over his ears feed him a cookie. Repeat until you can slip halter over ears without a cookie. The start with bitless bridle. Repeat with cookie idea until you can slip bitless bridle over the ears without eliciting a negative response.

Do not add bit until an equine dentist (and/or vet) has floated his mouth and mde certain there are no issues cause when the bit hits his teeth. Also - initially make it an easy bit - a snaffle which is not too small (pinching corners of his mouth) nor too large. If after all that the bit is still bothering him try feeding treats when the bit is in the mouth.

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My QH mare was a nut when I adopted her. Given to me at 16 years old and unbroke (figured that out when I got her home). Anyway, she wouldn't stand still for anything, walked over the top of you and definately would not have a bridle or saddle put on her. I would say to just take your time. I was in no rush and spent many hours/days/weeks just grooming and doing silly things like the headshyness games. It simply made her relax and know I wasn't going to push her too fast too soon. She had a lot of confidence issues. As for the bridle, it took a couple months to where she wouldn't freak out, spin circles and rear. Remember 'little' is more as long as the horse remains calm when you do it, reward by ending the session at that. You can be firm, but that doesn't mean unfair. Those baby steps go a long way in the future.
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