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    10-28-2012, 11:23 PM
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I was just wondering, How do you keep your horse calm and under control at the canter and gallop? My horse gets a strong canter and won't listen to me at shows( I.e., won't stop, won't turn). I won't try the gallop until I can get him under control. I want to barrel race on him, but I also want to do western pleasure. I ride him in a smooth, thick d-ring snaffle. Yesturday, I cantered him around a corner of the show arena, and he spooked. I tried to one-rein him in, but he slipped in a puddle, got mad and bucked me off. I took him in the empty warm up arena and did lots of lunging, making him change direction a lot. When I finally got on him, I did one-rein stops at the walk and trot until he listened to me. But, I'm scared to ride him because I don't know if I will be able to keep him under control. He's amazing on the trail and at home, anyone can ride him. He only acts up when I ride him at shows. Please help!
     
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    10-28-2012, 11:30 PM
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My mare is a complete hot-head at a lope. For the past year, I've been dealing with her turning into a mess after I loped her (just being HOT, bouncing around blah blah blah) and just recently, I can lope her and even let her run a bit and she'll calm down and walk on loose rein right away.

First of all, barrel horses and WP horses are like... black and white. It will come down to you having to pick one or the other.

With my mare, every time I'd feel her start to get carried away at a lope, I'd either sit her butt in the dirt and back up, or transition her down to a trot, get her relaxed at it, and then ask for the lope again.

I'm not much help cause the only way I got her lope good is from loping A LOT.
     
    10-28-2012, 11:36 PM
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My mare is now 10 and it's only been in the last 3 yrs. Where I have felt comfortable enough to canter her with others without her digging in and going as fast as she can! It took alot of cantering to get her now where she is at a nice lope/canter and not in such a hurry.......
     
    10-28-2012, 11:37 PM
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Sounds like he's completely ignoring your aids and your bit (which I'm sure you probably heaved on when he decided it was time to run! I've been there!)

I just moved my horse to a new barn recently....and he was hot! He would canter like a lunatic around the arena and not slow down, ie, ignored my seat....
Still responded to my bit, but a reining horse is not supposed to be 'stopped' with bit contact....so to avoid hauling on his face, which was sure to bring him down, but certainly not desirable.....
So I tried two things....
1. I rode it out, I just sat there all relaxed, and EVERYTIME HE WANTED TO SLOW DOWN I kicked him on, nope, 'you want to run, go ahead, but when you want to slow down.....I'm not going to let you, so you are going to WANT to slow down'.......this technique worked, but you've got to have the bravado to sit and relax and keep asking your horse to speed up....it worked but not something I'd want to do all the time....
2. I let him canter, and naturally he'd somewhat slowed it up a bit from lesson number 1, now is when I would canter and EVERYTIME he decided to speed up (which was usually on the long side of the arena) I canter him in small circles and when he slowed down I'd release him to the long side of the arena.....

He figured out pretty fast not to do that anymore.....however there are some key things for you to do here.....
Walk slow collected circles, going at the speed YOU want, making sure he's soft and moving off your legs, move to sitting trot at the speed YOU want, again soft and collected, rising trot at the speed YOU want, soft and collected....ask for the canter......soft and collected.....if he speeds up, canter small circles....if that doesn't get him thinking bring him back to the walk and repeat through trot to canter again....soft and responsive....

Goodluck
     
    10-28-2012, 11:42 PM
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^^ I would have done your #1, buuuut I don't have an arena, and letting her go out in the open probably wouldn't be a good idea considering she has stamina like you wouldn't believe.
     
    10-28-2012, 11:43 PM
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Do lots of canter work on the circle, lots of transitions - don't have a moment where he can think for himself. Once you have a nice calm trot going on the circle, ask for a canter (going into the corner from long side to short side is best) and after a few good strides (maybe half a circle max) bring him back to walk. Rince and repeat.

Once the canter strides seem to be nice and settled, allow a little longer before bringing back to walk. Once the downward transitions are happening nicely you could start working on figure 8s with simple changes on the change of lead (so canter - walk - canter).
     
    10-28-2012, 11:45 PM
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Green Broke
Qhriderke- my trainer actual owned a mare a few years ago she could run barrels on then turn around and do western pleasure.
But sometimes horses get excited about cantering and lose their minds, what might help is just begin by asking for one or two strides then bring him back down to a trot for a lap then again ask for a few strides. If he gets worked up switch his mind to something else. Don't give him the chance to lose his head.
I hope you find something that works for you guys :) it may not be possible for you to do both disciplines though some horses just arent cut out for it. It would be a good distraction from barrels occasionally though :).
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    10-28-2012, 11:48 PM
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Qhriderke- my trainer actual owned a mare a few years ago she could run barrels on then turn around and do western pleasure.
But sometimes horses get excited about cantering and lose their minds, what might help is just begin by asking for one or two strides then bring him back down to a trot for a lap then again ask for a few strides. If he gets worked up switch his mind to something else. Don't give him the chance to lose his head.
I hope you find something that works for you guys :) it may not be possible for you to do both disciplines though some horses just arent cut out for it. It would be a good distraction from barrels occasionally though :).
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Yea, sometimes that happens, buuuut it's pretty rare.
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    10-28-2012, 11:49 PM
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Just of note here, my horse is soooo broke that he knew he was being a dink! That's why it wasn't a 'schooling' or 'training' issue....it was a 'WTH do you think you're doing you big buffoon!' so I had to work with his thinking not his body as such.......if I had bothered to pick up the reins and haul back on him I'm sure he probably would've buried his butt in the arena footing! Haha I just needed to sit there and think about what the heck he thought he was doing......
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    10-28-2012, 11:52 PM
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Green Broke
QHriderKE- yeah unfortunately she lost the mare in a freak accident she was definitely a rare one.

OP- I also agree sometimes you just havr to ride it out an make him think its no longer fun its work.
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