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    11-28-2011, 03:20 PM
  #1
Weanling
getting your horse to Move....Whip, spurs, ect??

When your horse acts stubborn as you are riding and acts like he doesnt want to go in a particular area, ( I.e past a house where there are dogs barking and someone using a chainsaw) for instance, just wondering whats you guys techniques or what do you use?

Ok I know that you have to face the horse to what he fears and just let him sit there and stare at it, if he tries to turn around turn him back and let him face it. I have gotten my horse to eventually go past , sometimes after about 5 minutes of him not wanting to but my legs get tired of bumping his lower stomach area, or my feet rather. Its as if I am tiring myself or my legs out by trying to kick him.

I actually broke off a switch from a tree branch during riding and used that and it helped some. I was thinking about getting a whip and just take with me when I ride. One of my neighbors said he always ride with spurs on his boots.
     
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    11-28-2011, 03:25 PM
  #2
Green Broke
There is a reason your horse is not going past things, punishing him by whipping or spurring will not help.

I would suggest you address why your horse is doing this. Is he nervous, or taking you for a jolly? You need to show him leadership and hopefully someone else will give you more ideas.

Good luck
     
    11-28-2011, 03:55 PM
  #3
mls
Trained
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Originally Posted by nyg052003    
ok I know that you have to face the horse to what he fears and just let him sit there and stare at it, if he tries to turn around turn him back and let him face it.
Not me.

I just keep riding. I will circle the horse closer and closer to the object that scares them. By stopping and letting them look, they start to learn they can be 'scared' and stop working.

Distraction and inattention is the best thing.
     
    11-28-2011, 04:43 PM
  #4
Weanling
It depends on my perception of why he's planting his feet. If he's just being a turd and I know it and he knows it, then yes, I will use a branch or even the end of my reins. Usually - my preference - I prefer to hit my leg or even the saddle before the horse. The sound is usually enough to make him realize I'm not impressed with him and make him move. Only as a last resort will I slap him directly.

Now, if he's scared of something then it's a different story. I don't want to justify his fears by giving him a fright with a slap or a sudden sound, so I'll wait for him to unthaw first. Usually I wait for those ears to flicker away from whatever he's afraid of - as soon as they move I know he's not paying full attention to it anymore. Then I ask him to move off again and I reward him for even a single step in the direction of the scary object. I repeat as neccessary until he goes by it. Then I move off, let him relax, and then go back and pass the frightening object a few more times. It'll get easier with ever passing. (I'm not a fan of the "getting his feet moving" around a frightening object mentality because I'd rather my horse stop and blow at something he's unsure of than suddenly start running, but I can appreciate how some people prefer it, and in the first situation this can be valuable).

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On a side note: I NEVER just keep bumping his sides if he's frozen, all that ever does is teach your horse to ignore your cues because they begin to mean nothing.
     
    11-28-2011, 04:49 PM
  #5
Yearling
Never turn your horse away from the scary thing. I also try not to let the horse look either, it sometimes just psychs them out. I usually just try to keep moving, even if I have to trot or canter past it. (if the ground allows for a faster gait then a walk).

But If your horse just plants himself and won't go past something...I'll click and squeeze him with my legs, if that doesn't work, I'll kick, if that doesn't work and I don't have a crop, I'll smack him on the butt with my hand. If that doesn't work, I'll get off and hand walk him past. Then, get back on and keep walking past until he gets used to it.

I think if a horse stops and stares at something he is more curious then scared. Scared horses usually try and run in the opposite direction. When they are staring you kind of need to snap them out of their trance, and keep them moving. The overall goal is to keep moving forward.
     
    11-28-2011, 05:54 PM
  #6
Weanling
I personally do not believe that you have to force the horse to stop and look at the scary object, or that you should never let the horse turn away from it.

If I'm riding a horse who does not want to pass close to a particular object, I give the horse two options: quietly pass the object as I have requested, or work your tail off doing something else. For example, there is a particular door that my mare has seen a thousand times before, but one day she decided there must be a lion hiding behind it. She was insisting on either crabwalking sideways away from it or throwing it in reverse and backing quickly away from it (which is a HUGE no-no in my book). I took the crabwalking she was giving me and redirected it to sidepassing. We sidepassed and leg yielded all around the immediate vicinity of that door. When I felt like I had her attention again, I asked her to walk calmly (forward and in a straight line, thank you) past it again. As soon as she started to get goofy, we went right back to work. Eventually she got the message that it would be easier to just walk past the door and get it over with. That method takes patience on the part of the rider, but IMO it's preferable to starting a war over it.
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    11-28-2011, 06:54 PM
  #7
Weanling
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Originally Posted by mls    
Not me.

I just keep riding. I will circle the horse closer and closer to the object that scares them. By stopping and letting them look, they start to learn they can be 'scared' and stop working.

Distraction and inattention is the best thing.
nah I don't stop him, he stops and wants to turn back, turn around. I can tell when he starts to get frightful of something. Sometimes right before he stops, he will trot just a little and will want to make a sudden like stop and try to turn around.
     
    11-28-2011, 07:19 PM
  #8
Showing
It sounds like he doesn't trust your judgement since a horse that has full trust in their rider will go past any obstacle no matter how scared or not-in-the-mood they feel. I would do more ground work with your horse, focusing on trust and leading.
     
    11-28-2011, 07:29 PM
  #9
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Skyseternalangel    
It sounds like he doesn't trust your judgement since a horse that has full trust in their rider will go past any obstacle no matter how scared or not-in-the-mood they feel. I would do more ground work with your horse, focusing on trust and leading.
is ground work something that has to be done every so often no matter how broke or trained the horse is?
     
    11-28-2011, 07:29 PM
  #10
Showing
He could also be using these things as an excuse to go home. Initially I'll ask the horse for forward movement but guide him farther away from it. I'll even bend him so his hindquarters are farther away so he doesn't worry about being attacked from behind. If a horse is worried the rider will feel the tension. I'll be sure to pass said object on the way home so he see's it from a different angle. If necessary I will ride back and forth gradually getting closer until the horse relaxes.
     

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