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post #21 of 24 Old 05-20-2010, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Valentina View Post
It could be that the saddle no longer fits her and is causing pain. Make certain that there are no "lumps" in the saddle and have a saddle fitter look at how it fits your horse. Also - make certain that you are not placing the saddle too far forward - the part of the saddle near her withers MUST be behind the top of her shoulder.

My saddle had to be adjusted 3 times in one year as my mare was developing so much muscling in her topline the saddler had begun to pinch her and cause her pain. She also reacted as soon as she saw the saddle pad - snapping at me, etc. I fixed the saddle and after a few times she realized it no longer hurt - thus no more snapping.

If she react to grooming it may be too much/not enough selenium or she could be ovulating and in pain. Be careful about selenium - VERY easy to OD the horse on it. Try the Chastberry herb (1 tsp 2x/day) if it's an ovulation related issue.
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post #22 of 24 Old 05-21-2010, 06:45 PM
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Seems like Scientific is the way to go then. If you have lots of money to spend then spend it.

If not find someone who, after 30 years or so of workin with them may have an way to find out whats wrong without Vets, new saddles and chiropractors sending their bill.

Up to you.
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post #23 of 24 Old 05-22-2010, 06:23 AM
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No need to be snarky because you have nothing to back up your invalid statements.

No need to spend loads of money, either. I didn't spend boatloads of money on my gelding as I don't have it. I changed his management and the ulcers healed on their own (as they do). Sometimes, horses need vets help. It's proven.

You do know you can train a horse to put up with pain, right? If the horse is trying to tell you something (she's in pain) and you reprimand her every time she does, she'll certainly stop looking 'girthy'.

She'll still have the problem of ulcers/back/poor saddle fit, though.

Tennessee walking horses have to be tested with hoof testers to make sure they're not sored. Since they are anyway, trainers train the horses to not react to the testers. Sometimes a horse will fail a test, and the tester will tell them to go 'school' their horse more and then the horse will often pass.

You can ignore what your horse is telling you and tell her to 'put up or shut up', or you can figure out why she's telling it to you in the first place. Horses are not all that lazy--if she is sweet everywhere else, I doubt she just doesn't want to. I may own the laziest gelding on the planet but he still trots up to the gate to be worked every day.

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post #24 of 24 Old 05-22-2010, 03:22 PM
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Once you are sure the horse is healthy and you have a good saddle fit, I would suggest you start from the beginning on teaching the horse how to accept the Whole saddling process. I would start with sacking her out and I would start with your hands and progress to the pad and then the saddle.

When sacking her out I would apply and release pressure on her in a 'hug' fashion starting with the neck and moving back to the girth area. You can also use a rope without the saddle around the girth area to sack her out to the pressure. The key is to NOT get a reaction so start with very little pressure and a brief time. If she reacts you either used too much pressure or left it there too long. Increase the time at one pressure level to a minute at least before adding more pressure.

When she will accept you 'hugging' her with your hands and the rope add the saddle. As you are using an english saddle you will want to use a girth that is long enough to reach the billets without putting pressure on her. If you cannot then you can attach a lead to it so you do not have to keep reaching under her belly to retrieve the girth each time you release it. Then start over as you did with the rope.

If you are not, I would use a girth with elastics on one side so the girth has some give for the horse and would be sure it is not over tighten. I get them snug and then walk to the arena then check it before mounting. Remember, your girth should not be making the saddle stay on, only keeping it from sliding around. In other words if you have to crank the cinch down to keep the saddle on, you may have a bad fitting saddle (barring mutton withers and such conformation faults that make saddle fit hard) You can also pick up her front feet (like cleaning them) and pull up to make sure her skin is not pinched under it.

Keep up the good work : )

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