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post #11 of 17 Old 10-30-2011, 11:48 AM
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I am glad you are gonna start working on it. Remember it took a while for him to develop his bad habits, it will take a while to get good ones.

Be very patient and take baby steps. Think "today I want him to stand quietly for ten seconds twice" and then take it. Build upon small success.

Don't be afraid to correct him swiftly. Be firm and fair. Horses want to know who the leader is, and if you don't take the job, he will.

It will work, and the important part (beside PATIENCE) is turning to him, setting yourself up correctly, and asking him to stand and praising and correcting immediately when needed. My old showmanship horse would set himself up just by me putting myself in my showmanship position next to his head ...

Have fun! I take monthly videos so I can watch my young one's progress...
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post #12 of 17 Old 10-30-2011, 12:16 PM Thread Starter
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UPDATE!
Okay, Didn't have much time because I've got lots of other things today, but with the 20 minutes I did spend with him, he did show a little bit of improvement. He was big on rubbing his head on my today, no idea why. I smacked him in the cheek a few times, got that problem a little better. He's not a very quick learner, but he does eventually get the point, at least. The pawing problem is worse than I remember . Took along my crop and smacked him every time he did it! (which was quite a few times.) .. Had to do the backing thing a lottt. He was hyperhyperhyper today, didn't want to stand still, at all. Probably back him up a mile .
But overall, it was a pretty productive 20 minutes, I'd say.
At least now I kind of know where we are and can kind of work off that!
thanks all!

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post #13 of 17 Old 10-30-2011, 12:19 PM
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Hey, just 20 minutes is actually a pretty good amount of time for a ground lesson. Any longer and he could just get bored. Just be sure to end each note on a positive side so he doesn't get halter shy/hard to catch
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This is so similar to how my situation was. 6 years ago, I bought a 4yo pony and I was 12. She had no respect for me on the ground and as a result, halter classes were terrible. Our first halter class resulted in a bucking fit as soon as we trotted into the arena. I had to run and get her, then go back into the line up. Pretty embarrassing. And at 4h states, I was in showmanship and trotting in, she squealed and bucked a little.
I gained her respect over time. As I got older, the easier it was. I used a chain sometimes for extra help and a whip to keep her from invading my space. And I worked on a looooot of groundwork. Now she's easy as pie. :)

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You don't need to be smacking for it. That could make him antsy/nervous and escalate the problem. Instead, control him entirely though the noseband of a rope halter. Every time he moves out of his "box," just firmly put him back to exactly where he was. Don't get mad or impatient. Just be consistent.
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post #16 of 17 Old 11-02-2011, 08:45 PM Thread Starter
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You don't need to be smacking for it. That could make him antsy/nervous and escalate the problem. Instead, control him entirely though the noseband of a rope halter. Every time he moves out of his "box," just firmly put him back to exactly where he was. Don't get mad or impatient. Just be consistent.
Ok I'll try that too! Haven't had a chance to get out there and really work with him :/... Busy busy busy week... hopefully a few hours this weekend tho.

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post #17 of 17 Old 11-06-2011, 04:32 PM Thread Starter
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Update!

UPDATE! :)
Went out and worked hard with him today. For a half hour in the morning, then another 15-20 minutes that evening.

The morning session was probably the most productive :). I worked on leading him and keeping him out of my space. I'm so used to letting him just be so close to me because I thought it was cutesie, but it's gotten way out of hand so now he's gonna become the well-behaved pony in the pasture - I'm DETERMINED.

After about 20 minutes of walking all around the stable and places, he really got to understand the 'my bubble' thing. He stayed a good 2 feet out of my box and I tried my hardest to keep his shoulders level with my body, but it wasn't working that well... YET!

I also worked on standing. He did SURPRISINGLY WELL!! *so excited* Stood for a whole 17 seconds!!! So proud. I had to pop him a few times for getting restless and had to back a few times, but overall he did very well. It's just the 2nd full out halter session and he's already getting the hang of it! I ran into a small problem though, I CANNOT GET HIM TO STAND SQUARE! How do you do that? He stands like he's... weird... like with one like a foot in front of the other, like he's just chilling (which is wayy better than pawing the heck out of me! haha!) We did this for like 10 minutes. We also did a little stretching & stuff like that. I got him to the point that where I ground-tied him and walked in circles around him, and he didn't move. He was unusually chill today, though. I was very excited, though.

So I felt empowered and went back out to do some more in the evening, and he did just as well! I decided to do some fun stuff, so I set up a cavaletti & a groundpole in the flat part of the pasture and we did that for a little while, and then I got creative with a truck tire and set it on the ground. I thought of a seemingly good 'I control your feet too' exercise... So I made him put one of his feet in the tire. It took SO MANY circled around the tire before he'd actually do it, but when he finally did, I got him to do it a few more times! Then I tried to back him into it and... well, we need to work on that, but overall I was SO proud of my boy!

He's coming along!! Thanks for your help & I'll keep updating!
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