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post #1 of 24 Old 03-28-2012, 09:02 PM Thread Starter
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Going downhill again...

So ransom and I have had our ups & downs for sure, for the longest time we have been doing amazing and recently things have begun to go downhill again. I was supposed to be training for barrels this year..but it has been delayed since ransom can't lope without continuously stopping. I don't let him get away with it....but it feels like he's not getting any better.

The other problem that is beginning to start is that when I kick him to trot or lope, it takes a lot of kicking to get him to go. He has always had respect issues but like I said, things have been good..but now things are beginning to go downhill again.

So I'm asking how I can fix these problems..
•how do I get him to stop breaking his lope?
•how do I get him to respond to me kicking/cueing better?
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So, while loping he stops, on his own accord?

And you need to kick a lot to get forward motion. Do you have a crop or some long reins that you can spank him with if he isn'tmoving forward when told to?

When you are leading him , does he lag behind you and drag on the line like a heavy weight?
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1: Check for pain issues as always.
2: Does he do this of you free-lunge or lunge him?
3: Check you're riding. You could be sending him mixed signals. When you feel him want to go into a trot, really push with your seat and just squeeze with your leg. All that kicking you're doing isn't helping you much. You don't want a dead-sided horse.
4: Have you tried giving him a little reminder with a riding crop? I think that could work.
5: Just let him lope. When you're in the arena or whatever, when you get him into a lope, don't worry about anything, just keep him going, it doesn't matter where you go, just go!
6: I don't know how old he is or anything, but it takes more balance on his part to lope properly without breaking gait, so circles, transitions, serpentines ect, could really help.

I havent had many problems with not wanting to go, but the couple times I did, it was because it was the mare was being a lazy hag. I went to the trailer and grabbed the calf-typing string and put it on my saddle horn. Every time she tried to be a lazy hag, she got it over n under style, and off we went.
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So, while loping he stops, on his own accord?
Exactly, I try to keep him going..but it plays into my other problem.

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And you need to kick a lot to get forward motion. Do you have a crop or some long reins that you can spank him with if he isn'tmoving forward when told to?
I will try something new...and ask my coach to see which aid she thinks will work best for me. Would spurs be a bad choice?

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When you are leading him , does he lag behind you and drag on the line like a heavy weight?
The odd time, yes. But usually..he is very good with being led.
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I'd try the riding crop first, and then a little spanking with reins or something. Spurs aren't meant for "go".

It seems like it could be an attitude issue, but I'd still build up that balance, just in case! I know all about attitude issues.... 10 mares... yaaaaay.

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1: Check for pain issues as always.
Of course, will do.
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2: Does he do this of you free-lunge or lunge him?
He does this to me when I ride and also when I lunge him..if that's what you're asking.
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3: Check you're riding. You could be sending him mixed signals. When you feel him want to go into a trot, really push with your seat and just squeeze with your leg. All that kicking you're doing isn't helping you much. You don't want a dead-sided horse.
Okay, I will try more squeezing instead of just plain kicking.
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4: Have you tried giving him a little reminder with a riding crop? I think that could work.
I will try to get a hold of one.
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5: Just let him lope. When you're in the arena or whatever, when you get him into a lope, don't worry about anything, just keep him going, it doesn't matter where you go, just go!
Will do! Thank you.
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6: I don't know how old he is or anything, but it takes more balance on his part to lope properly without breaking gait, so circles, transitions, serpentines ect, could really help.
Thanks, I will try those :)

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I havent had many problems with not wanting to go, but the couple times I did, it was because it was the mare was being a lazy hag. I went to the trailer and grabbed the calf-typing string and put it on my saddle horn. Every time she tried to be a lazy hag, she got it over n under style, and off we went.
I'm under the impression that he has been being really lazy lately..because he used to be that push-button type of horse, getting him to go was never a problem until now.
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I'd try the riding crop first, and then a little spanking with reins or something. Spurs aren't meant for "go".
Okay, thanks for your advice.
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It seems like it could be an attitude issue, but I'd still build up that balance, just in case! I know all about attitude issues.... 10 mares... yaaaaay.
Yes, he is very pushy and one of those 'bossy type' horses :P yaaaaay...
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Well, it seems an attitude adjustment is in order then. :P

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Well, it seems an attitude adjustment is in order then. :P
What would you reccomend I do?
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Well, since we both think it's laziness, a nice spanking should help. Just a couple pop's when he's being silly. But, I'd be logical first, really push with your seat, squeeze squeeze squeeze, do the other things I posted, and then if that doesn't work, he's earned a little spanking.

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