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    03-01-2008, 11:18 PM
The only reason I don't agree with it is because I have seen even the very softest mouthed horse act up in a regular snaffle like my friends horse that I freaked out when I rode because I couldn't move without him basically doing a whole turn with the tinniest flick of my hand. It was kinda weird I wasn't used to it and he didn't even work in a snaffle. Don't know why but yea and I tried to soften my horse to the snaffle but it didn't work. See it worked for a little while then he wanted to run and I couldn't stop him. Its ok for inclosed riding were the horse focuses more but with June its just not happening. But yea I know where you are coming from kinda...
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    03-01-2008, 11:48 PM
Green Broke
Hmm, this got off topic quickly..... anyway, to get back on topic, you need a bit w/o a curb to show in English.... so it's good to get them used to some type of snaffle depending on your horse
    03-01-2008, 11:53 PM
Oh yea sry about my rambling top make it off topic lol i'll shut up about it.
    03-02-2008, 12:37 PM
    03-02-2008, 08:46 PM
Uh no....See I don't sit here and flat out run Junior all the time he wouldn't respond to my trainer and that's one of the reasons I switched which was also my trainers decision. Plus every time I didn't work him for a couple days I had to retrain with the snaffle because he wouldn't respond. Snaffles don't work for my horse and all that BS about all horses can be ridden in a snaffle is stupid.

I have heard it time and time again trust me some horses I have ridden I would not be caught dead riding them in a snaffle because they would not respond no way. I'm sry this just really irritates me because you don't know my horse and you don't know how he rides so you can't tell me that its my hands being to rough and that he CAN be ridden in a snaffle because he CAN"T.
    03-03-2008, 05:20 PM
The snaffle idea wont work for my anyway because I don't ride in a bit. I can but he is unbelievably hard to control and is just a down right stubburn mule with it. He absolutely hates any kind of bit. As soon as you put his beetle hackamore on he's a perfect gentlemen
    03-03-2008, 10:10 PM
Green Broke
Hmm, have you tried the Dr. Crook's bitless bridle..... it's an english type bitless bridle...... I'm not sure if it's show legal, but I'm sure hackamores aren't.......do you even plan to show?
    03-03-2008, 10:18 PM
    03-04-2008, 01:09 AM
I don't plan on showing him. I thought about it a couple years ago but never went throw with it. I just wanted him to go english for the experience of it. I ride in a beetle hackamore which is absolutely amazing. Just the slightest bit of pressure and he responds. Im so glad someone came up with those. When I first bought him I rode him in a bit and he would give you whip lash from slinging his head so hard. It was just untolerable. One day I decided to ride in just a halter and he listened to every cue. He was a totally different horse. So, he's been bitless for over 4 years now and he still shows progress in being extremely responsive and sensitive to the beetle hackamore. Usually horses get head strong from going without a bit but this hackamore has just worked wonders for him.
    03-04-2008, 01:20 AM
I know JDI didnt respond to this but im going to. JDI is right when she says that every horse can be ridden in a snaffle. Just because a horse goes badly for a while doesnt mean he can't be ridden in it. I always always always use snaffles and I've had some pretty out there horses. It depends on the horse as to how long it will take but every horse will do fine with a snaffle eventually. Some need more time to get the concept. But its not just the horse. The rider has to know what he/she is doing as well. Between a knowledgable rider and proper training techniques any horse will eventually soften and do well with a snaffle. Not everything happens overnight but with patience progress can be made.

For the benefit of people who are just learning stuff here with us it would be good to state that something like not every horse being able to have a snaffle is what you have found in your experience but does not make it rule of thumb for every horse everywhere.

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