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    08-30-2012, 04:57 PM
  #41
Weanling
Poor you.
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    08-30-2012, 05:00 PM
  #42
Green Broke
Beau .. you DON'T have to defend yourself.

There is nothing you are going to say to make them happy.

It's your decision.
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    08-30-2012, 05:07 PM
  #43
Yearling
Yeah, I don't see any way to come to any consensus here. Some people will always view horses as pets and some people will always see them as livestock. Personally, I see my horse as a lifelong companion but that doesn't mean I think that people who feel differently are wrong. It is all about how we were brought up to view horses. There is no right or wrong and it is a viewpoint that can not easily be changed.
     
    08-30-2012, 05:08 PM
  #44
Green Broke
Alright.. I haven't even read past page 2.. I know for a fact that Beau would not sell her horse, send it to sale, shoot it, put him to sleep.. Seriously? Can every single person here say that their horse hasn't kicked them, ever? Even another horse? I've been kicked by mine before..Hickory kicked AT me one single time and we had a come to Jesus meeting.. Nikki kicked me which was completely not entirely her fault.. I got in the middle of her and another horse.. Am I going to sale either of them?? No..

Point being.. Any horse will kick at one time or another..That doesn't mean they're this God awful horse that needs a bullet.. Little harsh assumptions.. The whole time I've "known" Beau (the horse) I've never heard anything about him kicking out or being aggressive.. Personally, I would have had a com to Jesus meeting with my horses in the first ten minutes if they didn't want to load.. By God.. You know how to get in that trailer, you're going to get your ass in it.

That said.. I don't think she should sell her horse at all.. handle the loading situation with a little more discipline and make him get his butt on the trailer..but I HIGHLY doubt she's going to resort to selling him because he kicked out twice in one day, doing something that he always isn't fond it..Redirect and work on that behavior, not immediately start in on the "get rid of him, put him to sleep, give him a bullet"... Lawd..

Edit..I meant she wouldn't need to sale, send to slaughter, or put a bullet in his head JUST because he kicked.
     
    08-30-2012, 05:11 PM
  #45
Green Broke
I would like to state she never said she couldnt afford to put him down.... so that was yet another rude assumption. Also beau I would like to say goodluck with him and I hope it all works out :).
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    08-30-2012, 05:12 PM
  #46
Started
Car is not living and don't think some old rust buckets are breathed new life into them. Those old 34 roadsters didn't get rid of the rust themselves.

Didn't tell you to keep every horse you ever owned. I certainly have not but I would not send a horse I have owned for 13 1/2 years and lamed up to an auction.

You don't have to agree with me anymore than I have to agree with you. But if you are ok with what you are doing why stop reading my posts :)
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    08-30-2012, 05:25 PM
  #47
Green Broke
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And if you can't afford to have your horse humanely euthanized, you shouldn't own one.
its not that simple...

We had our gelding euthanized about 6 yrs ago...we trailered him to the vet and he was PTS. Thankfully the vet is a family friend, and he took care of the body for us.

We couldnt afford to have him buried on the ranch...his body was taken to the dump...does that make me a horrible person, does that make me and every other person who can't bury their horse curel and should we not be allowed to have them?

I love each and every one of my animals. But im not rich...i don't have a swimming pool full of money...

Heads up...on Oahu, you're not even ALLOWED to bury a horse. Theres a certain depth you have to get too and the lava rock here prevents that so these horses are hauled off to the dump too.

Anybody can afford a bullet and a gun to put their horse down if need be.

Don't judge a person on the decision to send the animal to sale, or to slaughter just because they can't dish out thousands of dollars to bury it.


The OP said she just looked into it and its $300 to euthanize so she's looking into it...

How about you hold off on the Noose and let her deal with the situation...putting an animal companion down isnt easy for ANYbody, and condemning her while she's trying to make a decision isnt helping.


Beau, don't worry about defending yourself. Don't worry about the judgements, and the ridicule you may face...spend time with your horse, don't stress, and try to make the best decision for both the horse and you.

No we may not know all the details, but we arent entitled to them. Its your decision to share more or not.
     
    08-30-2012, 05:33 PM
  #48
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by corgi    
It is all about how we were brought up to view horses. There is no right or wrong and it is a viewpoint that can not easily be changed.
Maybe that's true in horse owning families where one grew up around horses. I didn't & at about the age of 10 I decided myself that horses would be part of my life & how I would view them. Most of my family still doesn't understand.
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    08-30-2012, 05:56 PM
  #49
Green Broke
^^ true Natisha but maybe a better way to say that is...everybody has formed their own opinions on horses, and livestock.

Heres a little example...

When charlie was 2 he tore the lining on his cannon bone...we took him to the vet, my mom said if its broken and its going to cause him pain, we can't afford to pay thousands to get him healed so if he's beyond repair then we may have to just put him down....i was all against it.. I would have found a way to pay the money for whatever surgery he needed...thankfully it was just the lining and he was healed up after 6 weeks of turn out....


My papa....woulda put him down on the spot...somebody else may have tried to sell him as is (he had no limp and only slight swelling so if not for the swelling we wouldnt even have known he tore it.)

Hopefully this all makes sense im just trying to say, in certain situations, different people react...differently.

So everybody has their own opinions and beliefs about it....i have 3 different views on horses just in my immediate family...my decisions could condemn me with 2 people in my family.
     
    08-30-2012, 06:25 PM
  #50
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To be honest..I doubt I'd have any qualms about putting a horse down or sending it to auction. A horse is livestock, and livestock generally goes to auction when it's ready or done with being used.
I'll assure any of you that a horse I'm using will get the best care I can give it, but livestock has no use sitting in my field, lame, and costing me money. Sure, I absolutely love each of the horses I've ridden for more than a few months, but if it's just costing me money that I could spend on a new partner, it will be sold/shot/auctioned.

I'm pro-slaughter, but that doesn't make me heartless. What's the difference between a cow and a horse as livestock? Not a **** thing aside from the fact that I can ride the horse. What makes the difference when the horse can't be ridden? Nothing. Some people keep cattle as pets, some people keep horses as pets. BUT, at the end of the day, horses are livestock and depending on one's views, will be treated as livestock. I want a partner that can keep going with me, or maybe even a few partners, I can't go to work with a horse that I can't ride or use as a pack horse.

Now, that's just my opinion and view on the whole slaughter issue presented here. Beau, I don't think of you as heartless at all, and I'll probably be called heartless. Do what you gotta do, and be proud of it. It's your choice, you don't have to explain or defend yourself to anyone, it's not their animal.
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