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post #11 of 15 Old 09-10-2008, 10:17 PM Thread Starter
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My reason for not wanting to use a bit is mainly because I want to be able to train him in a halter, and use the bit only for shows...so when he has the bit in his mouth he goes into "show horse" mode.

The halter and lead rope is considered a Parelli Hackamore.
I am not going to use a mechanical hackamore when he responds well to a halter.

You want the horse to be relaxed while riding, you want him to WANT to work for you, and want you to ride him...if he's not relaxed I personally don't think he'll enjoy the time.

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I wouldnt ride with a rope halter, you have no leverage if he would decide to pull something on you... if you dont believe in a bit other then showing you should get something a little better then that.
As I've said, Sonny responds PERFECT to the halter as long as he's alone. Another reason why I don't want to use a bit is because my bridle and reins is a pain in the you-know-where to switch bits...and I will NOT use my western bit for training purpose or any pleasure riding....and currently I have my western bit on and I'd perfer not to keep switching it back and forth.
Using a halter and lead rope is my decision....and I don't want to use a bit...if a horse is sound 100% barefoot, why put shoes on him? Same thing...if he responds good to a halter, why put a bit in his mouth....compaired to a halter, a bit IS harsher.

Yes, it is a rope halter...with the knots...I've NEVER seen a rope halter without on.

Valley, trust me....my balance is just as good in a saddle than without. He's done dead stops, sharp turns, etc and I haven't ONCE fell off bareback or felt like I was about to.
He listens great, and he'll do circles and go in other directions, just you can tell his mind is on that horse, and occasionally he does try to inch over, but not alot
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post #12 of 15 Old 09-10-2008, 10:48 PM
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You should just practise riding in the ring with other horses. Keep his attention. Make sure one of his ears are flicked back to yu all the time, and if theyre not do something, halt of turn or make a transition, put some leg on or half halt. just something to get his attention..

Just a note on how you said you want to be able to put the bit in and him go into show mode..
unforetunately horses dont understand when we try to do things like this.
Your changing his training routine and it'll be impossible for him to keep up with the work he does undersaddle in a show situation, to when your schooling at home.
The trick with showing, is to keep everything the same as at home.

Unfortunately the horses don't magically get better at shows and perform perfectly. If this was the case we wouldn't spend so many hours training our horses for these things.
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You should just practise riding in the ring with other horses. Keep his attention. Make sure one of his ears are flicked back to yu all the time, and if theyre not do something, halt of turn or make a transition, put some leg on or half halt. just something to get his attention..
He does have his ears back on me, but like any horse, his ears occasionally go forward, but they always go back....he's good about responding when I ask him to turn around, etc....but you can tell he just wants that other horse. He tries to sneak up, and I do correct him but if he was a dog he'd be the type that would knock something under the oven and would just whine and whine and whine

Just a note on how you said you want to be able to put the bit in and him go into show mode..
unforetunately horses dont understand when we try to do things like this.
Your changing his training routine and it'll be impossible for him to keep up with the work he does undersaddle in a show situation, to when your schooling at home.
The trick with showing, is to keep everything the same as at home.
Actually I have known many horses that do that so I know it's not impossible. The BOs horse is like that, and I've SEEN her show and rde at home
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You should just practise riding in the ring with other horses. Keep his attention. Make sure one of his ears are flicked back to yu all the time, and if theyre not do something, halt of turn or make a transition, put some leg on or half halt. just something to get his attention..
He does have his ears back on me, but like any horse, his ears occasionally go forward, but they always go back....he's good about responding when I ask him to turn around, etc....but you can tell he just wants that other horse. He tries to sneak up, and I do correct him but if he was a dog he'd be the type that would knock something under the oven and would just whine and whine and whine

Just a note on how you said you want to be able to put the bit in and him go into show mode..
unforetunately horses dont understand when we try to do things like this.
Your changing his training routine and it'll be impossible for him to keep up with the work he does undersaddle in a show situation, to when your schooling at home.
The trick with showing, is to keep everything the same as at home.
Actually I have known many horses that do that so I know it's not impossible. The BOs horse is like that, and I've SEEN her show and rde at home
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hey, I was just responding to your post
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i personally think the riding in a rope halter is great

I ride Gem in my Parelli rope halter and 12 foot lead every time I ride him.

I do think that Sonny will be able to differentiate bit to no bit.. and there for show to pleasure.
Don't underestimate the intelligence of a horse
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