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    11-17-2010, 01:36 PM
  #1
Foal
Green broke

If you were purchasing a green broke horse, what would you expect it to already know? How would you expect it to behave, and what groundwork/saddlework would you assume to have been completed?
     
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    11-17-2010, 01:41 PM
  #2
Foal
With the horses I generally train, I expect them to know this by the time they are green broke:

Groundwork: Catching, leading, tying, standing, hobbled, and used to being introduced to new things. Should be sacked out with bags, tarp, rope, blankets, and clothing. Used to being bridled and saddled, stands for mounting. Picks up it’s hooves for cleaning and farrier, and can be trailered with ease. Can be lunged both directions with/without whip at a walk, trot, and lope. Responds to ‘walk on’ to walk, clucking to trot, kissing to lope, and ‘whoa’ to stop. Responds to verbal commands ‘easy’ to calm down and collect strides, and ‘come’ to walk to you. Moves away from pressure, and respects space.

Saddle work: Can be bridled and saddled with no issue. Horse does not move off when being mounted, and will stand quietly until given direction. The horse should initially start off at a slower pace until asked to speed up. The horse should walk, trot, and lope on command without problem in both directions. Should be beginning to collect in both walk, and trot. Backs up, side passes, and beginning to turn on haunches and forehand. Should be able to be ridden in both an English and a western saddle, and with/without riding crop and with/without lasso. (should be trained to stand for some roping). The horse should travel over trotting poles, logs, and obstacles with ease. The horse has been trained to do small jumps (1-2’), and to go around barrels. The horse has been taken out on trails 3+ times with no problems.
     
    11-17-2010, 01:59 PM
  #3
Yearling
You answered your own question
     
    11-17-2010, 02:01 PM
  #4
Foal
Wow! You really expect a lot from a green horse. That's a good thing.

To me, a green horse should:
  • Stand tied.
  • Accept the bit and stand calm for the saddling process.
  • Good stand still while the rider mounts.
  • Lateral flexion from the ground and in the saddle (With both halter and bit.).
  • Good transitions under saddle, on the lunge line, and in round pen.
  • Decent stop and knows the word "Whoa".
  • Backs up with halter and bit from the ground and in saddle. (I don't expect them to tuck their butt under or vertically flex just yet.)
  • Moves off leg pressure.
Thats all I expect a green horse to know.
     
    11-17-2010, 02:05 PM
  #5
Banned
Wow. That's an awful lot for a greenie. My answer would be it depends on how old the horse is... But I expect good ground manners in general, having at least an intro to desensitizing, and be able to walk, trot, canter, whoa, and steer pretty well at all 3 gaits. I also expect that they will stand tied, pick up their feet, and stand for batheing.
I keep in mind though that a lot of folks don't know, care or do a lot of the stuff I do with all mine.... Such as more advanced ground work and more.
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    11-17-2010, 02:23 PM
  #6
Foal
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Originally Posted by aintnocitygirl    
Wow! You really expect a lot from a green horse. That's a good thing.


Lol, well, I do manage to teach them all that but it usually takes longer then 30 days for me to consider them green broke. I usually do about 50 days.
     
    11-17-2010, 02:49 PM
  #7
Banned
I guess it depends on your definition of green broke :)
To me, that means started under saddle... not finished in any one thing. Etc etc
You definition of green broke sound closer to plain ole broke to me. Not a finished horse but one you can start taking in any direction. There's just a few things missing from your list, but its close.

Now that I'm on the computer, I will give a rundown of what I do in 30 days.
Groundwork first..
Round pen and/or lunging (CA style)
Giving to halter pressure - laterally and dropping head down
Yielding hindquarters and shoulders
Desensitizing - hands and leadrope first, then saddle pads, plastic bags, etc
Standing tied quietly
Batheing
Saddling and bridleing, along with some long reining

Under saddle...
Stand quietly for mounting/dismounting
Walking, trotting, cantering
Stopping and backing
Giving to the bit, usually just touching on that at the walk and during stop and back
I always incorporate my legs from the get go... so they are starting to understand the concept of indirect leg aids.

I strive for all those things when I get one for 30 days, but don't always get that far. It all depends on the horse.
     
    11-17-2010, 07:25 PM
  #8
Foal
Quote:
Originally Posted by ImagineThat    
I guess it depends on your definition of green broke :)
To me, that means started under saddle... not finished in any one thing. Etc etc
Thats how I see green broke also. Started under saddle & knows the basics. Nothing major just yet.
Everyone has their own "green broke" horse. It could be anything from doing a reining pattern in a halter to just barely letting a person put the saddle on their back. It depends on how broke people like their horses.
     
    11-17-2010, 07:45 PM
  #9
Showing
For me, I think their ground manners should be flawless. They've had the chance to be worked with on the ground for years since their birth, and groundwork should be already drilled into their heads.

Under saddle, they shouldn't be chewing at the bit but accepting of it, their headset should be in place after warming up and with encouragement from the rider, but it isn't automatic yet. The gaits should be relatively consistent and the horse should have a clear picture of what "Whoa" means. They should stand for mounting, saddling, and bridling. They should move off to different gaits with a leg aid and a cluck or kiss, depending on the gait, and come back to a lesser gait with rein tension, a verbal command, and the English/Western cue for a stop. Their balance usually needs a lot of work.
     
    11-18-2010, 12:24 PM
  #10
Weanling
Well I guess I have a lot to do before mine is officially "green-broke" lol
     

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