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post #41 of 53 Old 03-31-2010, 11:08 PM
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I just want to commend you on your attitude - It's great to see someone who realises they may be in over their head, taking advice with such grace and making the smart decision! I wish you the best of luck with this new fellow and hope to hear more from you :]

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post #42 of 53 Old 04-01-2010, 12:12 PM
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I definitely think it's something about the teeth. I've seen horses with sharp points in their mouth slime and foam and they look bloody rabid. And if her teeth are hurting her and you touch on that bit, she'll more than likely be trying to get you off her back so the pain can stop. Have youe ver seen that Untamed and Uncut where Natalie Jay's horse flipped over backwards on her? That was why: BB needed her teeth done, and when Natalie yanked on the reins to get her head up it just sent her all the more out of control.

Get her teeth checked, first and foremost, then if she's still acting up go and looka t the gelding for trade. Make SURE there is nothing wrong with him. It sounds a little fishy to me.....Why would a trainer trade a good twelve year old gelding for a green, misbehaving young filly? Hmmm.....

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post #43 of 53 Old 04-01-2010, 09:59 PM
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Teeth!...First and foremost get her teeth checked. Horse tend to lose there baby teeth around this time. A bit might me agitating her mouth. My advice, if it is her teen don't ride her with a bit, maybe just a halter. My filly lost her teeth this fall, and I had to make her food into mash for her to eat it. At first she would take a bit, then stick her nose to the ground and drool it out.

Second, I have trained quite a few colts and never have I ever seen a young horse turn rebellious over night. Animals just don't do that, there is always a reason. My advice, get a new trainer, if he has had colts turn over night, he isn't training them right.

As to the trade, its your choice, do you want to get rid of you filly for the gelding? Will it ultimately be good for you family? I don't know, only you do.

Good luck and God Bless :)
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post #44 of 53 Old 04-01-2010, 10:37 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the kind words wild spot. I am also not convinced that it is just a "young" problem. However, I do know that even as nice as she was, I do not know enough to even know the difference and now my kids are a little timid about getting on her, so either way an older horse will be better for us in the long run.

As far as it sounding a little fishy the trainer trading a trained gelding for an untrained filly, I agree, but his family and my hubby's family go way back and my father in law used to let him and his dad keep horses on our property for free, so I am hoping that he is trying to help us out a little. He also had good things to say about Luna when he trained her, so maybe he can take her, work with her some and then make a little money on her. He deals mostly with roping horses and this gelding is too slow for him. Good news for us. So hopefully this will be a win for both of us. Who knows. We will see!
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post #45 of 53 Old 04-02-2010, 12:52 AM
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I don't have time to read the other replies but I would say have her teeth and back checked. Seems like a case of pain or discomfort to me

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post #46 of 53 Old 04-02-2010, 01:51 AM
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I think it would be foolish to automatically assume that the 12 year old is better than the 2 year old. Don't get me wrong, I think that an inexperienced family needs an experienced horse. I have met plenty of horses over 10 though that are fruit loops. You'd be better off to sell your baby than to trade if for something worse! The trade may be a good one, but make sure that it is before you complete the trade. Make sure it is very calm and get the vet check. Do some reading first and ask lots of questions.
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post #47 of 53 Old 04-02-2010, 12:56 PM
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I whole heartedly agree with SAndy2u1. Older does not necessarily mean appropriate for beginners. We tried out a twelve year old horse that seemed kid broke until you tried to lope a right circle, then he always put in some good bucking. We did take him to the vet and sure enough he had a stifle issue,an unfixable problem for the horse. Check the horse out very well before you trade. Buyer beware :)
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post #48 of 53 Old 04-02-2010, 04:22 PM
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Call the vet, dentist, farrier, trainer till the problem is resolved.
It could be medical or how you are riding the horse.
You need a trainer to give you and the horse lessons, just sending the horse away will only help the horse improve, not you. And if you don't improve the horse will revert, and the cycle will continue.
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post #49 of 53 Old 04-02-2010, 06:09 PM Thread Starter
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Well, we just got back from seeing the other horse and I think he would be a good one. When we got there there was an 11 yr old boy learning to rope on him. The horse seemed to know what to do and was willing to do it. Then my daughter got on him and he just waited to be told what to do and even then did it very slowly. He was right at 14 hh. There was another boy roping in the pen and a steer, but the horse just stood. We stood around and talked for a while and the horse never moved. I walked around him and it was like a breath of fresh air compaired to our Luna. Nothing was hard. We are going to have a vet check him and if all is good we are going to make the trade. He does want some extra money, but I am thinking that is to be expected. He also had a speckled grey we might think about for my boy. We rode him and he seemed to be very much like the other.

I also spoke to both boys who were riding them and they both said that they were great and very easy to ride on the trails anywhere. Not as pretty as our Luna, but looks can only take you so far. Her shiny wore off real quick!
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post #50 of 53 Old 04-02-2010, 06:29 PM
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id consiter the trade, see how the gelding is, maybe he's better suited for your family. Green horses and green families don't do well together and you don't want to do more harm than good
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