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    11-30-2008, 08:20 PM
  #11
Started
What about starting with a green broke horse while working with a trainer and boarding with that trainer.
     
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    11-30-2008, 08:23 PM
  #12
Trained
I have to disagree with most of the people that have responded. You didn't say you were just going to see how it went, you said you were going to get a trainer. I don't see what could go wrong if you were working under a good trainer.

How many of you started on green hoses working under a trainer or instuctor?
     
    11-30-2008, 08:28 PM
  #13
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Originally Posted by FehrGroundRanch    
How many of you started on green hoses working under a trainer or instuctor?
We did. We had our trainer choose the horse. He then purchased the horse. The horse is boarded at his home. Joshua came with ~60 days of training. He's been with our trainer since July. It's been very nice for us because we've learned about training. We've had a lot of fun installing buttons.

Our trainer huffed that Joshie was "an arena horse" when he came. He's muscled up and it's been very nice to learn with him. I DO NOT think this is a good idea unless you have a very kind and willing horse and a very, very good trainer.
     
    12-01-2008, 12:17 AM
  #14
Trained
My belief is this:

A horse learns everything from its trainer. We also learn from our horses but we have to have that backing behind us before we try to teach our horses anything.

If you are going to have a trainer that is a much better scenario but still in my mind I think you would be better off getting yourself an older 'been there done that' horse and then after you have much more experience handling and dealing with youngsters you could move on and get yourself a little one. The potential for getting hurt is high enough for people who have experience working with young horses. I shudder to think how the stats change for someone with not a lot of experience and I would hate to see you hurt.

There is no right or wrong decision here though I don't think. If you do get a foal just be safe and make sure you find a reputable trainer. The last thing you want is the blind leading the blind :)
     
    12-01-2008, 01:01 AM
  #15
Weanling
Thanks everyone for your input! This is a decision that will not have to be made for at least a year. Hopefully I will be much better informed then. I truly wish I could have a horse now, but I know I am not yet knowledgeable.
     
    12-01-2008, 04:20 AM
  #16
Showing
I think that it would be okay so long as you are working with a trainer. Although, I wouldn't try anything new with the foal without your trainer present. As far as riding when it gets old enough, I would let a more experienced rider ride for at least for the first couple of months. Sometimes, a young horse will not throw it's first buck until a couple of weeks into training because that is when their back is sore, their mouth is sore, etc. I would hate for a bad experience with a young horse ruin your passion for them. Start riding broke horses and work your way into the younger ones. Good luck. :)
     
    12-02-2008, 01:07 PM
  #17
Trained
I'm going to add my 2 here.

I think it would be wise for you to get an older horse at first, maybe one that isn't yet completely finished, but one that is pretty well trained. You'd still be able to train the horse, but the basics would already be down pat.
I got my first horse when I was 19. I had been riding for 11 years, but never owned or trained a horse. I thought it would be great to get a young, green broke horse and train it. And I got just that, a 4 (she had just turned 4, 3 weeks prior) mare, who was green broke and needed quite a bit of training. I thought it was all going to be easy, but it really wasn't. She would buck, rear, spook, run though the bit, wouldn't stop, it was a mess. I was doing all trial and error with her and I ultamitely put her up for sale after she had kicked someone, was dangerous for my BO and her husband to handle, and I had stopped enjoying riding (this was after 1 1/2 years of me training her). My fiance bought me a 15 year old been there, done that qh gelding for my 21st birthday. He wasn't being worked in a few years so he has some kinks, but we're working on it.
I wound up taking my mare down (from being for sale) and have started to work with her again, but I'm taking it easy and not pushing her or myself. This is after she's had several months off, and has settled down quite a bit as well.

Getting my qh gelding was the best thing for me. I have gained my confidence back, I don't have to worry about what he's going to do next, or what he's going to spook at next. I can go on trail rides and have a great time.

I did not, however, work with a trainer, so I'm sure it would have been different.

If you feel you are up for a challenge, a large challenge at that (IMO) and are willing to take your time with the foal, than by all means get a foal and work with a reputable trainer. But if you would like to ride soon after being a horse owner and want to go on trails, go to shows, ect, I would suggest you getting an older horse.
     
    12-02-2008, 10:07 PM
  #18
Weanling
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Originally Posted by FehrGroundRanch    
How many of you started on green hoses working under a trainer or instuctor?
I did.

I got a four-year-old ex-racer from the people who gave me lessons and they helped me train him. Well, to an extent. They helped me when I was having trouble getting him to do something.

I honestly say that getting a green horse taught me how to actually ride. I had been taking lessons on push-button horses for years before I got him, and he taught me how to actually ride and deal with all things horse-y.

I personally say that if you've got the help, go ahead and train the horse. It's rewarding as can be.
     
    12-02-2008, 11:55 PM
  #19
Super Moderator
I know what you mean about wanting an amazing bond with a horse...But I've also had experience with finding an amazing bond with a much older (15-20 year old) horse.
He was one of the horses at my camp, a little POA, and when he came to camp for the first time he was just scared to death but afraid to show it. I basically took him under my wing (since my fellow horse counselor people were terrified of him) and coaxed him out of his shell.
He wasn't push-button at all either. He must have been somebodies show pony or something because he'd do dressage, all on his own and he was always collected. He was also extremely flighty, terrified and very sensitive to everything. He always came through in a crisis though!
I rode him everyday, every time we rode anywhere, and didn't ride any other hoses unless I was forced. I adored him, he adored me. The second summer, last summer, he came back to camp and I was a horse counselor again. He neighed when he saw me, after a year apart.
It's so amazing to have a horse want to be with you so bad that when you walk away he watches after you and ignores everything else until you come back.
I was going to buy him instead of adopting Lacy but he developed some health issues that I really didn't want to have to watch him suffer, then eventually die from and on top of that I really was too big for him since he was a smaller POA.

BUT, I just want to let you know that an older horse can bond with you like you've never seen before and an older horse can teach you so much too. I'd advise you to get an older horse, find one that you absolutely adore and get a foal somewhere farther down the road.

Sorry for how long this is...

Good Luck!
     
    12-03-2008, 12:09 AM
  #20
Weanling
Thanks everyone for your input!!
     

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