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        10-31-2010, 04:27 PM
      #11
    Foal
    Yes in some ways my post could get you hurt but I know this horse very well. She just doesn't know. The way I suggested can make her move off, like with the whip. I have used this technique many times to get a horse to move away from me. The way I suggested was a give and take. But I do agree a horse should respond to voice commands also. Mine do too.
         
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        10-31-2010, 04:28 PM
      #12
    Foal
    The horse that she is speaking of, already lunges both ways without a whip and standing by the hind quarters well away is how to get her to go forward, if she stands by the shoulder the horse will stop. So hopefully we can help her through this with all the suggestions.
         
        10-31-2010, 04:41 PM
      #13
    Green Broke
    Yep. All good suggestions and will definetly put a lot of it into action. Always thinking safety first. One thing I do not do is use voice commands. Never had to. Guess its a good time to start hey? I have practiced with her when we walk that if she spooks a bit she is to continue to walk calmly next to me. She's getting better. The only reason for the crop whip, is to get her out of my space as she tends to get to close as she circles but again she is learning well what I want out of her. I'm doing a lot of ground work with her just haven't been able to do much lunging as she is hurt on that leg. Plus I'm not sure how much she is able to lunge being young. I don't have a round pen but I bought a 14ft. Cotton lead. So that will help. Believe me, I'm taking all suggestions into consideration. Thanks so much!
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        10-31-2010, 05:31 PM
      #14
    Weanling
    I started my horse ground driving a few months ago. He knows how to lunge and lunges in a surcingle and side reins, he mostly goes off voice command but when I lunge I have a lunge whip just to encourage him along. So I hooked up two lines, one to either side of his bridle and looped them through the dee rings on the surcingle.

    The outside line I put over his back just behind the surcingle and I lunged him round as normal. When he got used to this I let the outside line drape over his rump and gradually down behind his hind leg, still lunging him in a circle like normal.

    After he was used to this in both directions. I straightened him out and let him walk froward. I kept him at a walk and did little turns, like the corners of the arena. If I felt he was getting a little too fast I put him back on the circle until I felt a bit more in control again. Then let him walk straight again.

    It took a lot of work on his part and mine to get used to the tow lines. At first he was a star, I kept dropping one line because I wasn't used to holding it and he'd stop and turn to look at me like "get with the program mam!".

    Now we're working on refining our turning aids. I set up cones and have him walk through the cones, and use poles and have him walk both over and through the poles. We started to add trotting but I find he gets too fast for me to keep up with and if I jog along behind him he sometimes takes this as me signalling a want to play and gets a little rambunctious! I've found that because of the extra line in my hands i'm not co-ordinated enough to carry a whip so I just don't, if he turns in to me I just give him a walk on command and sometimes turn his head to face away from me.

    He's completely fine with the lines dragging and someone at my barn suggested I get a tire and see if he would drag that along too. I might, maybe a piece of wood or something. I know they want to be able to drive him at some point. The barn manager really wants to be able to get him pulling a sleigh.
         
        10-31-2010, 05:35 PM
      #15
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by KMtraining    
    Starting ground driving in some of the ways mentioned above is liable to get you kicked or hurt and your horse scared and unwilling to work with you.

    Ground driving comes after you have done lots of other ground work with your horse. Your horse should be taught at liberty how to respond to voice commands, how to move away from and yield to pressure, how to not be scared of long lines dragging by his/her feet and all over their body, and other excersises that will make the transition to ground driving less stressful. Hope this helps! :)
    You shouldn't be that close to get kicked. I have never had any issues ground driving but that wasn't the 1st thing I did. I didn't see in the post that nothing had ever been done with the horse just assuming it had.
         
        10-31-2010, 05:37 PM
      #16
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by blueberryhill    
    How is she with the saddle? If she is good with the saddle you can take the lunge lines that you are using, usually two of them and go through the stirrups on the saddle and behind her keester. Then you can bump her forward with the hind rope and she will walk forward, work on walking forward first then worry about everything else. First get her used to the lines on her are you using a halter or bit? Otherwise you can use a lunge whip behind her to tap her first. Does she know what lunging in a circle is? If not start there first.
    I don't like to bump them with the rope because they feel it in there mouth. Lunge whip is my choice
         
        10-31-2010, 09:08 PM
      #17
    Foal
    Yea I only bump with the rope if there is not a bit in the mouth. I start driving with the halter first same as lunging. I understand them feeling it in the mouth on a bit. You are exactly right there.
         

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