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post #11 of 17 Old 11-17-2008, 02:59 PM Thread Starter
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thanks everyone :)

gottaride - my older tb mare does what that qh does as long as i dont move too far away lol i think all of mine except for my new mare would have the mentality to do it. my new girl is 8 but she still has a very young mind :)

thanks for all the info ;)

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post #12 of 17 Old 11-17-2008, 10:06 PM
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I not only want a horse to stand and "whoa" while the line or reins are dangling, but I also want him to "whoa" if I fall off or the saddle comes off or both...so I do things a bit differently than most...and I start them young. Once the horse leads well and is dependable, I will toss a saddle up on him...no cinch and no latigo. Then I'll lead him around with it, if it falls off, I'll give him a sharp "whoa" and stand there till he calms down (if he spooked), if he didn't, I'll praise him and simply stand there for a few seconds. Then I'll put the saddle back up and we'll keep doing that until the saddle falls off and he doesn't move. If the saddle doesn't fall off and I want it too, I'll reach up, grab the stirrup and pull it off. Once he's comfy with the saddle falling off and standing quietly when it does...I'll start dropping the lead and asking him to "stand"...then I'll walk a circle around him. If he moves to follow, I'll stick my hand up and repeat "stand" and put him back where he was. Once he's good at that, I'll widen my circle to 10' or so. You get the idea. It really doesn't take all that long before they will stand when you ask with the lead dangling. A few won't get it and for those I do something a bit different...but for most this works great and with the added benefit of them learning that whenever the saddle (or you) falls off, they are to "whoa" and "stand".
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post #13 of 17 Old 11-18-2008, 04:24 AM Thread Starter
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great advice! thank you :)

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post #14 of 17 Old 11-20-2008, 04:18 AM
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Zab had it right and if you have a lot of time and patience, you can teach them sooo much more. I saw the coolest thing ever the other day. My dad, brother (Jason), step-mom, and I were working cattle. Dad and Jason had to rope this steer (maybe 800 lbs) and give him a shot. Anyway, Jason ended up having to get off his horse to put his rope on both feet since he had only roped one. He tied his rope to the saddle horn and got off and left his horse standing there. When he needed more slack in his rope, he just pulled on it and smooched (kiss sound) to his horse and Zippo took only 1 small step forward giving just enough slack in the rope for Jason to get it on both hind feet of the steer. It was so cool and the ultimate example of a ground tied horse. I wish I had gotten video of it.

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Perhaps we are talking two different things here...to me, ground tying refers to a horse who stands (without supervision) when the reins or the lead rope is dangling. It's called ground tying because the horse looks and acts like he is tied to the ground (when he isn't). It comes in handy when you are out riding and you need to dismount and leave your horse. I want my horse to stand where I put him without having to be held or tied to anything. Such as when I dismount to open and close fence gates, check something in the brush line, move something off the trail, take a bathroom break behind a rock, or when hunting. I want to know that my horse is going to be where I left him when I get back to him. I also don't want my horse tearing towards parts unknown if I fall off or loose the saddle, so I teach it the way I do for that reason. Roping is different. Ropers are taught to stop when the rope is thrown and the rider stops riding. There's a bit more to it than that, but you get the idea. Having a horse hold the line taut or step in is something entirely different than ground tying - taught differently as well.
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post #16 of 17 Old 11-21-2008, 01:16 AM
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I agree but it starts the same with teaching the horse to stay where you put him. Jason just teaches his to hold pressure while he does it. All of ours stay ground tied when we get off. That is just part of their training. Jason just took it farther.

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post #17 of 17 Old 11-21-2008, 01:33 AM
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Thanks for the explanation...I thought we might be talking 2 different things, but I understand where you are coming from now.
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