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post #1 of 7 Old 06-14-2011, 11:03 AM Thread Starter
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ground work?

I have a 5 year old TWH that needs to learn respect. He's pretty pushy. I believe in "lunging for respect" however, I have fibromyalgia and I cannot lunge a horse more than a few minutes without getting incredibly dizzy. I mean, falling over dizzy.

Anybody have any other suggestions for ground work that do not involve me turning in a circle?

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post #2 of 7 Old 06-14-2011, 02:10 PM
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You might want to try some exercises like the movements used in Grooming and Showmanship classes. These movements involve leading the horse at the walk and trot, halting and squaring up his feet, backing up, and pivoting around the hindquarters. The idea is to get the movements so natural that the horse can do them off of the handler's body language alone, with refinement through the lead.

The G&S movements accomplish much the same as NH lunging: you're moving the horse's feet on your terms, making the right thing easy and the wrong thing hard, and reinforcing the concept of respecting your space, particularly through the pivots and backing up.

Hope that is helpful to you, and I'm interested to see what others recommend!

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post #3 of 7 Old 06-14-2011, 05:07 PM
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you an also try yeilding the hindquarters.. it lets him know how far away he needs to be from you and when your standing in front of him that his rear needs to be away from you at all times no matter where you move, try standing about a foot to his right and if he don't move his rear pop a rope behind him if he dnt get the pic smack him on the rear and make his rear move ( not his front legs jus his back, he should pivot his rear away from you) he should be standing at least a arms length if not more away from you and if he goies to steppin forward push him back and put your hand up letting him know how far away he should be.. there is a time for a horse to be in your space and a time when he don't need to be.. longing does get respect but it don't teach him boundaries.. you have to keep letting him know that pushing is not aloud and if he pushes on you.. push him back.. (not hard) ust be firm and let him know that's your space.. and if you need more info on yeilding the hindquarters look it up on the internet it helped alot with my mare.. it will give you pitures and mayb a video that will help.. if this helps let me know :)
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post #4 of 7 Old 06-14-2011, 05:38 PM
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Have you ever tried long lining or ground driving? Im not sure what you're aiming to do but it can be much more educational than lunging and you don't need to stay on a circle.
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post #5 of 7 Old 06-15-2011, 01:10 AM
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I have fibro as well, so I too, have to be careful how long I lunge as well, so I will in corporate sending exercises, and c-driving...(I'm going to assume you are familiar with Clinton Anderson)...that helps me alot. When the horse knows how to lunge well, you can also 'challenge him' further by simply passing the lead behind your back rather than turning with him, and that could help you on some days too. I find the more I can move forward, like with the C-driving, the easier it is to maintain my balance...sending exercises also rarely effect me, but there are days that lunging, or even yielding the hips, or shoulders, I can barely make one pass, and I'm dizzy...I'm so glad my mare is good at it at this point, and she is also very in tune with how I'm feeling as well, so that helps.

To help him get over his respect issue, do alot of backing, shoulder, and hip yielding...I will back my mare down her paddock to get out into the working area...Lol! The other boarders, I think, think I'm nuts...but they also commend me on how well behaved my horse is too...sooooo...it pays off in the end.

Backing, especially, can help a pushy horse learn to stay out of your space...so do alot of the 'hula hoop' exercise, to teach him to back out of your space and stay there until you invite him back in to your space, or until you choose to walk back into his space. With a horse like him, I prefer to walk into him, rather than allow him to walk to me, atleast until I know he understands not to run me over...Lol!

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post #6 of 7 Old 06-15-2011, 11:49 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks for all the replies. He was doing pretty good last year and then we had to "board" him at my daughters. We only got out there every few weeks and he basically ran around a pasture for 8 months with very little "work" involved. I feel like we are starting over.

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post #7 of 7 Old 06-15-2011, 11:49 PM
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Hopefully it won't take him too long to swing back into action, though, if you had him going pretty good last year...unless he's one of those "what? I never learned this!!!" types...Hahaha

I find that usually within a few good sessions the horses are remembering what they learnt, and it goes pretty easily from there. Hang in there!

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