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    05-22-2008, 10:17 PM
Groundwork Materials

I would like to improve Rosa's groundwork. There are so many different things to choose from when it comes time to pick out some material to follow, and I'm starting to feel a little confused. Does anybody have any suggestions as to which groundwork related materials (books, DVDs, magazines) are the easiest to follow and have good results?

How are Stacey Westfall's DVD's?

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    05-22-2008, 11:50 PM
I like to use a surcingle and lunge lines for ground-driving, or side-reins to lunge with. You can do so much with just those simple pieces of equipment it's stunning actually.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, in my personal opinion, the money is better spent with a trainer than with DVDs, you get a professional opinion and you get feedback, so you can be assured if you're doing something right or wrong.
    05-22-2008, 11:54 PM
We did spend a decent amount of time working with a trainer (Rosa's previous owner), and now that she is officially ours, I just want to keep reinforcing everything to solidify any groundwork she already knows, and maybe teach her a little more. She's not having any serious issues, just want to make things rock solid. :)

Thanks for the feedback!
    05-23-2008, 12:33 AM
Parelli focuses a TON on groundwork but you don't need to buy his dvds to understand his principles. I've seen some of Stacy Westfalls stuff but I never looked into it too much.
    05-23-2008, 12:48 AM
What about talking to the previous owners and jotting down a few things that they did with her and go from there. That way you are reinforcing what Rosa already knows and you can build up more from there with whatever trainer you decide on. I personally like John Lyons. He makes a lot of sence to me and he is easy to understand. I think you just have to look into them and see what clicks for you. You tube is a good place to look at the trainers in action as well as some of their "students"... I just don't like how the NH trainers push their expensive tack. I don't mind shelling out the $15 for a book and using my own tack. Good Luck !
    05-23-2008, 01:38 PM
    05-23-2008, 05:22 PM
For me, Clinton Anderson's techniques seem easy to understand. His ground exercises gets your horse to respect you more. I like the way he explains horse's psycology. Just my preference, though. I only have his book Downunder Horsemanship and have seen his TV show. However, I do not know what his DVDs are like.

I hope you find something that works well for you!
    05-23-2008, 06:40 PM
You know, call me weird, but I couldn't tell you one thing about any of these trainer's. Monty, Clinton, Stacey, John, etc...

I guess I just train horses my own way, and that changes a bit with every horse, because no two horses (at least none that I've trained) have ever been broke the exact same way. Why? Because they're individual horses with individual personailites.

What may work on one horse, may not work on another.
I suppose the basic principle is there with all of their theories.
I just have my own method that works, and let the horses tell me what works for them and what doesn't.

I really don't think there's any set rules on how to train a horse, as long as you know what you're doing, and you can tell when your horse is happy, comfortable, and trusts you with what you're doing.

Sometimes both the trainer and horse have to compromise a bit. Find out what works best for you and Rosa and run with it. :)
    05-24-2008, 12:36 AM
Natural horsemanship videos in general are really good, because they work with the mentality of the horse.
Also, you can get a big binder with lots of papers in it, called "John Lyons' conditioned response Training mannual- GROUND CONTROL (teaching manual for unbroke and broke horses)" yes I realise that is a huge title, im sorry I just quoted everything it said on the front =P
Anyways, that's a great lot of stuff there. Personally I havent read much from it, but my mum went to a workshop with her horse and they went through a fair bit of that and it helped her heaps, and she taught me some things from that. Theres spaces for you to take notes on how your horse did everytime too, so you can keep track of what you need to work on. Or if you have more than one horse, where you're up to with each.
The books is great. Lots of pictures and diagrams too.

There is also a DVD by the Australian Natural Horsemanship Study Centre called "Ken Faulkner- Secondary groundskills" (this is the one that's here with me now, but im assuming theres a "primary groundskills" one too, and we have another one [which is probably the primary one]). Anyways, that's a pretty good dvd too.

Hope it helped

Alex =]
    05-24-2008, 04:34 PM
I have John Lyons Conditioned Response Training Manual...for Ground Control. I love this, and if you're in need of a step by step,easy to understand and do program this one is great. It helps you develop a plan, the steps and where you need to start with YOUR horse. These are pretty costly. I got mine (an older version but it's perfect) along with all his Communicating with Cue's: series of hard back books, 6 VHS tapes on training, and years worth of his magazines as a goup lot on Ebay for 110.00. The deals are out there but you have to look and wait and Get lucky!

I also have Clinton Andersons videos on round pen work and ground control. These are great! If you're at this point in training and you want something easy to understand and do and something that works pretty quickly with good results these are great for this. You can really follow it and not get confused.

Parelli I like as well but I think there's alot to learn here and takes time because it's less of what people are used to doing but it is fun to do with your horse and you get good results. Some of their stuff is higher priced too.

Hope this helps some and hope you and your horse enjoy the journey!

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