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  • Hackamore for dead mouthed horses
  • Hard mouth and how to use a hackamore

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    03-29-2013, 11:22 AM
  #61
Foal
My horse has a hard mouth. He was an old schoolie, so Im sure its from kids constantly pulling and yanking on his face with harsh bits.

Anyways, I was wondering, does any one in here have experience with this?
Have you tried a hackamore on a horse with a hard mouth with success?
I am thinking about trying one on my gelding to see if he will respond differently if I take a bit out of his mouth.

Of course, I am also working with bending/leg yields, to try and get him to soften up a bit, but I like the idea of trying a hackamore may add some relief for him as well..
     
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    03-29-2013, 11:37 AM
  #62
Weanling
I have a morgan that I am working with now that has a super dead mouth. His old owner would let him lean on the bit so he got it through his head its ok. Now its a pain to fix. Anyway. Clinton Anderson has some great stuff to work with for a horse who a dead mouth. You might want to check out. One thing you can do is a lot of ground driving. Also one lesson I am doing with the bad morgan is this. Stand by his side. Place your hand on his withers. Don't let him move. Then use your other hand (left) to ask him to bring his head to his belly. You are grabbing the rein in your left hand and putting enough pressure to fell it. The sec he gives drop it. He may move around, just stay with him. Wait for him to stop. Then keep going. Do this to both sides and ask for more bend each day.

Now on to the hackamores. I use to ride my own horse in one, he seemed to like them better. However with showing and other work, you have to have a bit. So I did a lot of work on him and got most of his bits in sweet iron. He enjoys all of his work and bits now. Some times I can't get them off. Hackamores can be vary dangerous as well to the horse. I have seen someone destroy there horses face with them. Broken nose, ripped up face.
     
    03-29-2013, 12:16 PM
  #63
Yearling
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Originally Posted by zzlanova    
My horse has a hard mouth. He was an old schoolie, so Im sure its from kids constantly pulling and yanking on his face with harsh bits.

Anyways, I was wondering, does any one in here have experience with this?
Have you tried a hackamore on a horse with a hard mouth with success?
I am thinking about trying one on my gelding to see if he will respond differently if I take a bit out of his mouth.

Of course, I am also working with bending/leg yields, to try and get him to soften up a bit, but I like the idea of trying a hackamore may add some relief for him as well..



Could do. Probably a fair bit of a horse with a hard mouth is not so much an actual hard mouth, in some physical sense, thought that's no doubt there, but its probably as much if not more a behavioural thing.
Probably the hardest mouth horse I have dealt with in the last few years was my horse I had in Jordan. He was pretty dead in the mouth, and no amount of hauling on the bit hard would make a dent in him. He had been used to haul a carriage in through the siq down into Petra and had had his mouth destroyed by someone pulling on his mouth while he was pulling the carriage. When I got him I just set up the same as I would when I hackamore train horses. So basically as his feet were coming into place for him to make the movement I wanted easily, I would pick up the rein and feel out his mouth. When his feet got into place I'd give him whatever pull on the rein he needed to do what I asked, and after I had given him the pull, I let off the pressure entirely.
I didnít use a hackamore on him, just a loose ring snaffle and it got him softened up pretty good. I guess you could probably soften your horse up in a snaffle bit if you wanted. But I guess you could probably retrain him from scratch in a hackamore. Unless you are really wanting to refine your horse a lot its probably less the equipment you use on the horse but the way you use it that will make the difference.
     

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