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        09-20-2010, 09:08 PM
      #11
    Trained
    I would shy away from the butt rope. You really should take this slow without force or any more pieces of equipment to get her frightened of.
    I like the idea of just going out and playing with her, just putting the halter on and doing nothing with it.
    I also don't like this pulling thing, it creates bad leaders in the long run. You need to teach her first to move sideways from pressure, and then in circles and gradually to lead beside you. Once she has figured out that the halter is not a trap that stops her from going forward, she will be much easier to lead.

    Good luck!
         
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        09-20-2010, 11:09 PM
      #12
    Trained
    Anebel, when I use a butt rope I don't use it to pull a horse forward, but it's mainly there to 'stop' backward movement...I've only used it on a few occasions though, when just getting them to move their feet wasn't quite enough to get them to walk forward with me...never had one become relient on it, or get 'hard' from it...but I think it's the way I have used it.
         
        09-21-2010, 02:48 AM
      #13
    Super Moderator
    shutting down

    I have never halter broken a foal, so I don't have any advice.
    With regard to shutting down, I have read some stories about horses who were "laid down" or sometimes called "tapping" , who basically shut down as a result. I read that when the horse is tipped down onto its side, and the trainer sits on its head or side, it may enter a sort of zone out state that is seen in prey animals when they have been caught by the preditor and know there is no escape. They shut down and it is thought that there experience of the agonizing pain of being eaten alive is shut off via this automatic response.
    What is debated about this horse dropping technique is whether or not there are any long term effects. Many horse owners who do this feel it is a last resort and swear that the horse becomes calm while down and retains this calmness. The debate is kind of whether the horse is CALM or emotionally DEAD.
    I wonder if the foal experienced something similar. She thought she was dead meat, so to speak. It is very automatic, not really something they "think" about.
    What do you think?
    Have you heard of tapping?
         
        09-21-2010, 04:02 AM
      #14
    Yearling
    I was going to say no I havent heard of this happening because when you think about it, its unnatural for a prey animal to make themselves so venerable to attack by shutting down but then I remebered a racehorse that used to do it and they got it a pet....goat from memory and it was fine. Never did it again. Im not recomending you get a goat LOL but I think everyone and you have the right idea of just taking it slow.....
    It would freak me out though, I'd prefer a horse to fight me than to do that.....odd
         

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